# Nobody goes there anymore

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 29, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396 "2008-01-29T01:38:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/41 "2008-01-29T14:01:32Z")

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Our next big vacation is planned for Idaho. Heck, how often do yoy get a chance to meet an Ingrid? Geez, that was a no brainer.

Nobody goes to Kansas. Fer chrissakes, it’s smack dab in the middle of “the plains.”

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/42 "2008-01-29T14:09:37Z")

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Iowan by upbringing here. I would describe most - _MOST_ - of the state as “a nice place to live, but you wouldn’t want to visit there.” There is a definite lack of eye-popping sights or zingy attractions. But there are areas of quiet natural beauty, such as the rolling, wooded land in the northeast of the state. And even a bleak November afternoon in corn country has a stark charm about it. I’d take it over the industrialized scrubland of the Rust Belt.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/43 "2008-01-29T14:19:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Bayard]  
I’ve been a tourist in Iowa (Amish country); and Ohio is really quite lovely. My vote is for Nebraska. I’ve never been there, and maybe it’s perfectly wonderful. But they just don’t seem to be a big tourist draw.  
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I’ve driven through it. There certainly is a lot of it.

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**Author:** ![Solfy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Solfy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Solfy)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/44 "2008-01-29T14:22:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Delaware wins this thread, no contest.

Nobody knows shit about that state. It really might as well be fictional.  
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I’ve vacationioned in Delaware (Cape Henlopen) several times, but I’m not convinced that I wasn’t really in Maryland.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/45 "2008-01-29T14:34:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Nava]

I think it’s just that Rhode Island, Delaware, Maryland and Connecticut are so small most people don’t even know they’re there. And at least Delaware and Maryland aren’t “next door” to one of the world’s greatest tourist destinations.  
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Newport, RI is a popular summer vacation spot, similar to Cape Cod, the Hamptons or Fire Island, NY.

Connecticut had Foxwoods and Mohican Sun casinos

Maryland has Annapolis and Baltimore which must be good for something.

Deleware…I got nothing.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/46 "2008-01-29T14:41:18Z")

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[QUOTE=El\_Kabong]  
Or maybe Ohio. I once read some comment that said something like: “The reason you see so many Ohio licence plates on the road is that it’s so boring that two-thirds of the residents are out of state at any given time.”  
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Ohio gets a lot of visitors from Indiana looking for some excitement.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/47 "2008-01-29T14:58:49Z")

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[QUOTE=msmith537]  
Deleware…I got nothing.  
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You can visit the most expensive toll road in the country. $4 for 11 miles, that’s an attraction alright.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/48 "2008-01-29T15:20:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Delaware wins this thread, no contest.

Nobody knows shit about that state. It really might as well be fictional.  
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I hear they have a nice screen door factory.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/49 "2008-01-29T15:34:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Cheesesteak]  
You can visit the most expensive toll road in the country. $4 for 11 miles, that’s an attraction alright.  
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The 17 mi. Monterey to Carmel is $8.50. Course, it’s not exactly ugly.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/50 "2008-01-29T15:38:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Cheesesteak]  
You can visit the most expensive toll road in the country. $4 for 11 miles, that’s an attraction alright.  
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What about California State Route 73?

If you take it from Newport Coast Drive to the next exit at Laguna canyon road, a [distance of about 5.25 miles](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_73#Exit_list), you will [pay $5.00](http://www.thetollroads.com/tca/tripCal.do?cmd=goto73) if you travel at peak time and pay cash.

Then I went to look up the 91 express lanes which are also pretty expensive. Here’s what [Wikipedia says](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/91_Express_Lanes#Description):

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> Since January 1, 2008, the toll on the busiest hour on the tollway, 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm eastbound on Fridays, is $10.00, or $1.00 per mile, the highest toll for any toll road in the country.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/51 "2008-01-29T15:40:37Z")

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[QUOTE=MissGypsy]  
Idaho. I’ve never met one person who’s been to Idaho.  
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I lived in Boise for 4 years and got my bachelor’s degree from Boise State University. BSU - the school where they put the BS in front of U! (That joke _never_ gets old). As a matter of fact, I just got a letter yesterday from my friend Debbie who still lives there.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/52 "2008-01-29T16:30:57Z")

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Looks like Wikipedia let me down on that little factoid. Until Delaware hears word of it and decides that $12 each way is more appropriate for traversing their fine state.

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**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/53 "2008-01-29T16:50:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried]  
Then I went to look up the 91 express lanes which are also pretty expensive. Here’s what [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/91_Express_Lanes#Description) says:  
$10.00, or $1.00 per mile, the highest toll for any toll road in the country.  
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Cheaper than the Golden Gate Bridge, slated to bump to $6.00 to cross its 1.7 miles.

Tops on my list of “eugh…why?” states to visit would be North Dakota. Just because it’s nearby, South Dakota ranks a close second. Is there anything worth visiting in Alabama?

Delaware is extremely popular for business travel - someone needs to visit all of those tax-sheltered corporations.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/54 "2008-01-29T16:56:07Z")

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[QUOTE=El\_Kabong]  
Or maybe Ohio. I once read some comment that said something like: “The reason you see so many Ohio licence plates on the road is that it’s so boring that two-thirds of the residents are out of state at any given time.”  
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I just got back from visiting Ohio. I went there to buy wines that the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, in their infinite wisdom, has decreed shall not be sold in our state. I have gone to Cleveland for this purpose in the past (they have the nearest Trader Joe’s to me that sells wine that I know of).

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/55 "2008-01-29T16:59:11Z")

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[QUOTE=gotpasswords]  
Is there anything worth visiting in Alabama?  
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Actually, [Gulf Shores](http://www.gulfshores.com/) is pretty nice.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/56 "2008-01-29T17:02:17Z")

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[QUOTE=gotpasswords]  
Tops on my list of “eugh…why?” states to visit would be North Dakota. Just because it’s nearby, South Dakota ranks a close second.  
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The Dakotas (especially the Northern one) don’t get a lot of tourist visits because they’re _isolated_, not because they’re boring. ND has Roosevelt National Park, and SD has the heavily touristed Black Hills, with Mount Rushmore, Wind Cave, the Badlands, the Crazy Horse Monument, and historic Deadwood.

Delaware, on the other hand, gets a fair number of tourist visits, because it’s easy to get to and a ton of people live nearby. But it’s _boring_. I’ve been in all 50 states, and Delaware held the least fascination. One tme I had to testify in a lawsuit in Wilmington, because my employer was incorporated there–that was probably the quintessential Delaware experience.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/57 "2008-01-29T17:07:57Z")

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Rehoboth Beach, Delaware is lovely, and a very popular weekend destination for a LOT of DC.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/58 "2008-01-29T17:21:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Anne Neville]  
I just got back from visiting Ohio. I went there to buy wines that the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, in their infinite wisdom, has decreed shall not be sold in our state. I have gone to Cleveland for this purpose in the past (they have the nearest Trader Joe’s to me that sells wine that I know of).  
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Lush. 😉  
Pennsylvania has some whacked out booze laws.  
One thing that has always cracked me up is that the only thing that could get anyone to come to Detroit in January is the North American Auto Show. Enginerds.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/59 "2008-01-29T17:25:00Z")

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[QUOTE=One Day Fish Sale]  
I was going to suggest that, but remembered that I live there. We’re more-or-less still part of the US, depending on which map you look at.  
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I’ve never seen more interestingly patched together mobile homes with ummm additions of the eccentric kind until we did a drive through parts of the UP. Brilliantly lovely, Alabama poor.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nobody-goes-there-anymore/435396/60 "2008-01-29T17:36:37Z")

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Is it true that North Dakota has giant statues of the Flintstones?

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