# Nomenclature: sword and ...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nomenclature-sword-and/487016>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 23, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nomenclature-sword-and/487016 "2009-02-23T04:31:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nomenclature-sword-and/487016/1 "2009-02-23T04:31:15Z")

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Is there a term that encompasses both “sword and sandal” and “sword and sorcery”? I’m tired of typing out both terms when I am writing about stuff they have in common, which is a helluva lot. Lay it out if you know it. But don’t say “fantasy,” fantasy encompasses a lot that neither subgenre does.

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nomenclature-sword-and/487016/2 "2009-02-23T04:33:10Z")

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Would “heroic fantasy” do?