# NOM's new ad

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208 "2009-05-03T21:09:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/41 "2009-05-04T18:50:07Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Ah. Thank you for explaining the joke. :smack:

No problem duq.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/42 "2009-05-04T20:24:34Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Only the gay Christian New Yorkers.
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> (Sorry – can’t resist the sly 1776 reference. Carry on.)

You really seem to know a lot about musical theater there, **Bricker**.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/43 "2009-05-04T20:26:31Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> You really seem to know a lot about musical theater there, **Bricker**.

The irony is not lost on me, I swear.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/44 "2009-05-04T20:45:11Z")

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I believe it was actually established at one time that Bricker is, in fact, the nom de net of TV and stage’s Adrian Zmed.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/45 "2009-05-04T20:45:23Z")

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Hey, a guy can like musical theatre and not be gay. He can watch:

1776  
JCS  
The Producers

/End of list.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/46 "2009-05-04T21:01:55Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> You really seem to know a lot about musical theater there, **Bricker**.

1776 is very manly. There’s only one female character in it, and she doesn’t get much screen time. It’s mostly lots of men, arguing passionately, engaging in a fistfight, firing a gun, all very manly things.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/47 "2009-05-04T21:06:00Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I believe it was actually established at one time that Bricker is, in fact, the nom de net of TV and stage’s Adrian Zmed.

\<blink\>

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I think I liked him better when I just thought he was a Conservative and a lawyer.  
Now, I have NO respect for him.

😃

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/48 "2009-05-04T21:06:39Z")

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_Naked Boys Singing_ was also very manly, except they weren’t wearing stockings.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/49 "2009-05-04T21:40:16Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> 1776 is very manly. There’s only one female character in it, and she doesn’t get much screen time. It’s mostly lots of men, arguing passionately, engaging in a fistfight, firing a gun, all very manly things.

No, it’s manlier than that - it has TWO female characters. One exists to be kissed and sing one song. The other exists to engage in the 18th Century equivalent of phone sex. It’s a show about MEN in STOCKINGS! And PASSION!

Um, I’ll shut up for now.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/50 "2009-05-04T22:22:59Z")

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I feel like there’s some kind of a joke in here about (re)writing the constitution and ssm, but I’m not finding it.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/51 "2009-05-05T00:07:55Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> _Naked Boys Singing_ was also very manly, except they weren’t wearing stockings.

Geek moment: the “Perky Little Pornstar” number for that was one that took me out of the musical for a bit because of his references to Tab Hunter. Like a 20 something Jewish boy from Skokie IL would even have a clue who that was, let alone lust after them…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/52 "2009-05-05T00:48:58Z")

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Isn’t that just typical of the radical homo agenda, to try and tar a wholesome, All-American icon like Tab Hunter with their depraved insinuations.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/53 "2009-05-05T01:01:38Z")

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If I remember properly her answer twice mentioned choice. Those are conservative buzzwords . She implied that gays make a choice to be gay. That is not a good answer. It is politically and scientifically unacceptable. She does not get a free ride.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/54 "2009-05-05T01:12:07Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> That is not a good answer. It is politically and scientifically unacceptable. She does not get a free ride.

Whenever I need to arrive at political and scientific truth, I tune in a beauty pageant.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/55 "2009-05-05T01:38:08Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Geek moment: the “Perky Little Pornstar” number for that was one that took me out of the musical for a bit because of his references to Tab Hunter. Like a 20 something Jewish boy from Skokie IL would even have a clue who that was, let alone lust after them…

What, you never watched old movies when you were growing up? I had the hots for plenty of actors/movie characters that were way older than me/out of any league I might ever find myself in/dead/retired/obscure by the time I watched the movie/etc.

I loved 'em all, dramas, comedies, beach movies (and yes, Tab Hunter was dreamy), biker movies, action, you name it, I watched it whenever I could.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/56 "2009-05-05T02:34:46Z")

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This is funny, [even Fox News](http://www.newshounds.us/2009/05/01/during_her_speech_about_traditional_marriage_fox_displays_large_photo_of_miss_california_in_a_bikini.php) doesn’t take her seriously.

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> Oh, those family values folks at Fox News! On yesterday’s (4/30/09) Live Desk, Trace Gallagher and Julie Banderas were all agog over the prospect of Miss California, Carrie Prejean, speaking at the National Press Club on behalf of the conservative National Organization for Marriage. But Fox was obviously more interested in her view than her views. Because about a minute after Prejean started speaking, the screen split and a still photo of Prejean in a bikini, about twice the size of the real Prejean, appeared. It remained for the rest of the clip, about two more minutes. With video.

A picture of the split screen is at the link.

I have to admit, those boobs are fascinating, I can understand wanting to study them instead of hearing the bimbo speak. They’re so far apart you could stick a third boob in between, and they’re way balloony. Who thought that looked even close to natural? The pageant officials must have cheaped out and only paid for a Boobs’r’us job.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/57 "2009-05-05T05:38:58Z")

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Hallelujah! This atheist repents! There is indeed a God after all!

[Carrie Prejean Naked Photo Scandal](http://www.popcrunch.com/miss-california-nude-picture-carrie-prejean-naked-photo-scandal/)

> [@](#):
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> The blogosphere is ablaze with buzz about topless and semi-nude photos of controversial anti-gay marriage activist Miss California Carrie Prejean. We hear there’s a whole series of these suckers about to leak. The first photo, which appeared just a few minutes ago on [TheDirty.com](http://TheDirty.com), shows a woman — who bares a stricking resemblance to the beauty queen — staring seductively into a camera while wearing only a pair of pink panties and using a strategically placed arm to cover her naughty bits.
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> Shame…
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> Alicia Jacobs, Entertainment Reporter at KVBC in Las Vegas, has seen all six of the photos and says some are much more revealing. Alicia believes the flicks may have been taken after Carrie’s pageant-financed breast augmentation about six weeks ago.
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> …

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/58 "2009-05-05T06:38:15Z")

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Her breasts have NOT been artificially augmented. They’ve been born again.

I love it when a Fundie Flavor of the Month gets caught in a scandal. Of course, as Joe the Plumber (aka Sam the Sporadically-employed-as-an-unlicensed-employee-in-the-plumbing-industry) proves, no amount of proven lies or ignorance or complete hypocrisy will necessarily make them fall. (His current “no queers near my kids” thing is getting great play in fundie circles, though luckily his wife doesn’t have a problem with lying backstabbing opportunistic losers around them or he’d never get to see them.)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/59 "2009-05-05T06:49:04Z")

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I especially like the implied acceptance, like “all” his queer friends understand and approve (apparently) of his adamant refusal to allow them near his children. Heck, who could be offended by that?

I mean, if I’ve got leprosy or smallpox, something like that, of course I would understand if some All American, bullet headed Saxon mother’s son wouldn’t want me near his children. I would understand perfectly!

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/60 "2009-05-05T06:59:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I especially like the implied acceptance, like “all” his queer friends understand and approve (apparently) of his adamant refusal to allow them near his children. Heck, who could be offended by that?

One thing you have to hand the Clan Phelps: I think they’re the only high profile homophobes who have never once claimed to have gay friends. (Great Lennon ref incidentally.)

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