# NOM's new ad

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208 "2009-05-03T21:09:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/121 "2009-05-11T00:13:11Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I half expect to someday find out that **Chef Troy** ’s real name is actually Chef Troy.

Bork bork bork?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/122 "2009-05-11T06:21:42Z")

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No, that would be **Chëf Trøy**.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/123 "2009-05-12T22:27:40Z")

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It’s been busy in the world of Bigoted Bimbosa.

In our previous episodes we learned that Miss Bigoted Bimbo Boobs, aka Miss California, aka Carrie Prejean, aka runner-up for the Miss USA crown

[1)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/carrie-prejean-miss-calif_n_188897.html) is against gay marriage

1. has the IQ of a slug (seems to confusingly think that gays have the freedom to get married everywhere in this country)

[3)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/01/miss-californias-breast-i_n_194385.html) got her boobs paid for by the Miss California pageant people

1. lied:

[First)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/07/miss-california-topless-p_n_198798.html) by signing a contract with the Miss California pageant asserting that she’d never taken nude or semi-nude photos.

A photo appeared with the promise of more to come.

1. lied again:

[Second)](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/06/miss-california-carrie-prejean-gay-marriage-underwear-panties-topless-photos/) by telling pageant officials that there was only one photo, no more.

Immediately after which the [second one](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/07/carrie-prejean-miss-california-twice-the-topless-exposure/) appeared, with the promise of more to come.

1. lied again:

[Third)](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/11/carrie-prejean-whos-the-boob-now/)when she said [she was only 17](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/05/carrie-prejean-i-was-only-17/) when the photos were taken

1. lied (or more accurately, misled)

[Fourth-ish)](http://www.usmagazine.com/news/michael-phelps-on-miss-calif-rumors-im-single-2009234) when she misled reporters into believing that she and Michael Phelps had dated (she coyly said, when asked, “Wouldn’t you like to know?”). They were photographed together, but Phelps denies ever dating Prejean.

[8)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/30/carrie-prejean-gay-marria_n_193788.html) agreed to become the poster girl for anti-gay marriage organization NOM

[9)](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/07/carrie-prejean-miss-california-gay-marriage/) has a father and a stepfather who either or both may or may not be gay, but were both “accused” of being gay

[10)](http://www.gaywired.com/PrintFriendly.cfm?ID=22431) has a sister who Prejean _claims_ is a “gay rights activist” even though in sworn testimony the sister said “I don’t think it’s right for my sister & I to have to live that way” when she and Carrie happened upon a man in bed with another man at their father’s house.

[11)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/05/carrie-prejean-topless-ph_n_196817.html) almost lost her crown and blamed the whole hullabaloo on the “intimidation tactics” of her critics.

[12)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/08/miss-california-carrie-pr_n_200520.html) has become phone buddies with Sarah Palin

[13)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-keeps-the_n_202093.html) gets to keep her crown because Donald Trump, of all people, doesn’t mind lying when it brings publicity

So now,

[14)](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-carrie-prejean-topless-photos/) it doesn’t matter how many _ **MORE** _ (and far racier) pictures come out, she’s set. She’s got her crown, she’s got a buddy in Palin, she’s the darling of the “hey, lying’s ok as long as it’s _our side_ doing the lying” set, and she’s famous. I think a porno could come to light and it wouldn’t matter to the loonballs.

1. with that most recent set of pictures, it’s easy to see that she actually used to be beautiful, with beautiful breasts. One totally botched boob job, a lot of bad makeup, a dye job and a creepy pageant later, she’s a whole different person. It’s kind of a shame.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/124 "2009-05-12T22:51:10Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> [13)](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-keeps-the_n_202093.html) gets to keep her crown because Donald Trump, of all people, doesn’t mind lying when it brings publicity

Trump was on CNN last night to talk about why he gave Joan Rivers the Celebrity Apprentice crown (has nothing to do with ratings of course) and actually did have the honesty to admit he liked the Prejean controversy for the attention it brought to the pageant. Since he let Tara Conner keep her Miss USA crown over drugs and alcohol scandals it’s no surprise he let Prejean keep her lesser crown over a lesser scandal.

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**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/125 "2009-05-13T00:19:03Z")

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This is the funniest thread on the Dope in awhile. I’m bookmarking this sucker.

You all are teh funny.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/126 "2009-05-13T00:27:22Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Since he let Tara Conner keep her Miss USA crown over drugs and alcohol scandals it’s no surprise he let Prejean keep her lesser crown over a lesser scandal.

That makes sense. I didn’t know about that. I haven’t paid attention to beauty pageants since I was 13, when, all during my growing up years, Miss America and Miss Universe were televised Events Not To Be Missed. Of course, that was back before cable and video, when things like miniseries, Movies of the Week and the yearly showing of The Wizard of Oz were Events Not To Be Missed.  
Since this thread has become All Things Prejean, [here’s some](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-carrie-pr_n_202665.html) just-unearthed video footage of her modeling lingerie on E!'s red carpet show before last year’s Oscars (the No Country For Old Men year). Damn, her breasts used to be pretty, and I say that as a hetro female. As seen in those [most recent photos](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-carrie-prejean-topless-photos/) and this video, she was not flat. They were perfectly proportioned. Why oh why oh why do women mutilate themselves for [fake balloony boobs](http://www.newshounds.us/2009/05/01/during_her_speech_about_traditional_marriage_fox_displays_large_photo_of_miss_california_in_a_bikini.php)? I can only understand it for breast cancer victims.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/127 "2009-05-13T00:30:33Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> [14)](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-carrie-prejean-topless-photos/) it doesn’t matter how many _ **MORE** _ (and far racier) pictures come out, she’s set. She’s got her crown, she’s got a buddy in Palin, she’s the darling of the “hey, lying’s ok as long as it’s _our side_ doing the lying” set, and she’s famous. I think a porno could come to light and it wouldn’t matter to the loonballs.

Yeah, it’s odd what passes for “morality” among this crowd. Such as, for a recent example, Marion “bitch set me up” Barry, who’s opposed to gay marriage because he’s [“a politician who’s moral.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK-XbBeP7xM) (line in question at about 4:10).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/128 "2009-05-13T00:35:06Z")

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Equipoise, I’m a little surprised at you. How is it a strike against her if her dad is gay, or she didn’t actively deny dating Michael Phelps (but didn’t claim she had, either)?

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/129 "2009-05-13T00:45:17Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Equipoise, I’m a little surprised at you. How is it a strike against her if her dad is gay, or she didn’t actively deny dating Michael Phelps (but didn’t claim she had, either)?

I never said it was a strike against her because her dad is or might be gay. I said earlier something like that if that were true she should have more empathy toward gays. But then, empathy is shameful and horrible, I guess, or so we’ve recently heard.

As far as Michael Phelps, it was just a snark at the publicity houndness of her answer. Hey, I have photographs of me next to famous men too. Wouldn’t you like to know if we were dating at the time. (ok, you wouldn’t, but still) I also thought it was hilarious that Phelps felt the need to say ‘oh no we didn’t date, absolutely not’ to distance himself from her clutching onto him for publicity.  
**waterj2** (what’d you do with 1?), I haven’t been able to watch that video yet. I might try later, but Marion Barry is a disgusting human being, and I just ate. Thanks for the link though.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/130 "2009-05-13T00:51:58Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> I never said it was a strike against her because her dad is or might be gay. I said earlier something like that if that were true she should have more empathy toward gays.

Actually, having your parents split up because one of them came out as gay is probably the most understandable reason for homophobia. It’s still terribly misplaced, and I don’t excuse it, but I can at least muster up some sympathy for the person who holds that position.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/131 "2009-05-13T01:14:15Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> **waterj2** (what’d you do with 1?), I haven’t been able to watch that video yet. I might try later, but Marion Barry is a disgusting human being, and I just ate. Thanks for the link though.

I saw a Daily Show clip with that part of his speech. If you can find that, it’d probably be more palatable. And **waterj2** is just the user ID that my college assigned to me way back in '96, when they already had a **waterj**.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/132 "2009-05-13T04:14:58Z")

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Anybody notice she got the bridge of her nose squared off after those topless photos? Not sculpted, but with sharp edges. Almost as bad as a cheap boob jobs, paid for by pageant officials who are looking for cup size and not shape and proportion, are cheap nose jobs.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/133 "2009-05-13T04:29:06Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Actually, having your parents split up because one of them came out as gay is probably the most understandable reason for homophobia. It’s still terribly misplaced, and I don’t excuse it, but I can at least muster up some sympathy for the person who holds that position.

I guess I can see it. It’s a sad thing though.

**waterj2** , thanks, I’ll look for the Daily Show clip.

**dropzone** , I thought she looked different! Beyond the boobs, of course, but I thought it was just makeup. I’ve now looked at two different sets of pictures ([this set](http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/12/miss-california-carrie-prejean-topless-photos/) and [this set](http://www.newshounds.us/2009/05/01/during_her_speech_about_traditional_marriage_fox_displays_large_photo_of_miss_california_in_a_bikini.php)) and you’re absolutely right, it’s a nose job. That explains a lot. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’d done something to her eyes too.

Damn!! Such a naturally beautiful girl, seriously beautiful, turned into the Stepford Contestant. That’s much sadder than anything she thinks about gay marriage or her pathological lying.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/134 "2009-05-13T04:40:36Z")

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Olbermann had a [pretty good overview](http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x311429) in a new “WTF?” segment. After seeing her bring up her father’s war record, all the sympathy I just had for her is gone again. Dumb bimbo. Yeah, your father fought for your right to mutilate your body and lie like a bitch and get rewarded for it, even while you lie your bitchy boobs off by saying you were “punished.” Your 15 minutes are just about up. Enjoy the last few seconds.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/135 "2009-05-13T06:24:05Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Olbermann had a [pretty good overview](http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x311429) in a new “WTF?” segment. After seeing her bring up her father’s war record, all the sympathy I just had for her is gone again. Dumb bimbo. Yeah, your father fought for your right to mutilate your body and lie like a bitch and get rewarded for it, even while you lie your bitchy boobs off by saying you were “punished.” Your 15 minutes are just about up. Enjoy the last few seconds.

I watched that on the re-broadcast and it was damned near like that scene from WHEN HARRY MET SALLY as I was going “Yes… oh… yes.. YES YES!!!” That was a thing of B-E-A-U-T-Y!!😃

It’s going on my facebook right now.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/136 "2009-05-13T19:54:54Z")

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I’m wondering now how long before it comes out her grandfather who fought under Patton story is a lie (that one grandfather was born in 1934 and the other was on deferment because the golf club couldn’t find another caddy).

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/137 "2009-05-14T00:19:04Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I’m wondering now how long before it comes out her grandfather who fought under Patton story is a lie (that one grandfather was born in 1934 and the other was on deferment because the golf club couldn’t find another caddy).

Ooops, I just realized I said father instead of grandfather. I guess her dad would have been pretty old when she was born. Stranger things have happened. Horny old guys, Viagra, you know. But yeah, I hope someone’s looking into that. Not that her compulsive lying matters to her supporters, but it’d be interesting to know.  
Since this is the All Things Prejean (pronounced pray-ZHAN, which fits with her praying for Perez Hilton and saying the devil tempted her to pose topless, on “windy” days) thread, former Miss USA Shanna Moakler, executive director of the Miss California USA pageant, has resigned in protest to Trump’s letting Prejean keep her crown.

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> Moakler, a former Miss USA , said in a statement issued by her publicist Wednesday that she no longer believes in the organization.
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> She had angrily accused Prejean on Monday of violating the contract she signed with pageant organizers by speaking out repeatedly on behalf of organizations opposed to gay marriage and by failing to disclose she had posed nearly nude for photographs as a teenager.

It’s nice to know that someone in the organization has integrity and is embarrassed by the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/138 "2009-05-14T01:03:32Z")

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I used to have a huge thing for her when she was in \*Pacific Blue \*on USA on Saturday mornings. I kinda got over it when she married that douche from Blink-182…

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noms-new-ad/495208/139 "2009-05-14T02:00:07Z")

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I feel no need to link, but Lou Dobbs of course had the anti-Olbermann take on it last night, with Prejean obviously being a victim because she’s sweet and the same age as Dobbs’ daughters (he actually said something like that). I didn’t watch the rest but I’m guessing he went on to say that the the nude photos were probably taken by illegal aliens who then forced her to get breast implants and stole her job.

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