# Non-Americans and God? Americans and God

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 27, 2002, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025 "2002-11-27T03:31:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/1 "2002-11-27T03:31:56Z")

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Non-Americans:

Are you angry at God because he hates you? I mean how else do you explain the fact that you were not born an American? Do you just sit around and think of ways to become an American? Do you wish that God loved you enough to allow you to live in the only free country in the world? How do feel if you are at war with us and know God is on America’s side? I hope you have a chance to answer these questions before your government stops you, in America we have something called free speech, but I doubt you have heard of it, if only God loved you.

Americans:  
Isn’t it great that God loves only us? Aren’t you glad you were born with God’s love? When you think of all the countries in the world do think it is just chance that God let you be born in the only free country? Or do you know it is God’s love?  
For Everyone:  
Why did God want so long to create America? Is it because it took this long for people to be ready/deserving?

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### Author: ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/2 "2002-11-27T03:36:50Z")

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Shouldn’t this be in the Pit or something? Isn’t that the place for parodies?

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### Author: ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/3 "2002-11-27T03:39:19Z")

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God bless America

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### Author: ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/4 "2002-11-27T03:41:26Z")

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I asked you [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=146324) and now I’m asking here again.

Are you live or are you Memorex?

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### Author: ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/5 "2002-11-27T04:26:10Z")

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Shouldn’t this be in the Pit or something? Isn’t that the place for parodies?

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Neurotik, I see you are from VA (part of America), so you know how great America is.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/6 "2002-11-27T04:32:42Z")

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Well, I’m guessing the OP has taken exception to all that “one nation, under God” guff.

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### Author: ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/7 "2002-11-27T04:34:31Z")

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Feh. That’s just my location. I grew up in sunny Southern California.

And I still fail to see the point of this thread if it isn’t parody. And if it is, it ought to go in the Pit.

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### Author: ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/8 "2002-11-27T04:37:54Z")

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LOL - ooh yes - I am really SO very envious of America, or should that be the United States?

🙂

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### Author: ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/9 "2002-11-27T04:43:42Z")

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Oh, come on **BZ** , quit dicking around, willya?

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### Author: ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/10 "2002-11-27T04:44:34Z")

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OK, Neurotik name a better country than America?

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/11 "2002-11-27T04:49:20Z")

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Better country?

The Guinastasian Empire!!!  
😃

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### Author: ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/12 "2002-11-27T04:53:42Z")

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Sure. How are we rating countries? What are the criteria and how are we weighting them?

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### Author: ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/13 "2002-11-27T04:56:00Z")

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Neurotik, here’s the criteria, what country would you want to be citizen of more and than America?

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### Author: ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/14 "2002-11-27T05:05:39Z")

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Hmmm…that’s a good question.

Well, I enjoyed England while I was living there. But then you have to deal with cricket, paying for local calls by the minute (making internet expensive) and the “cuisine.”

Australia would be nice. Except their island is a giant deathtrap filled with beasts that want to kill you. (Even koalas).

Canada’s too cold.

Of those three, I’ve only lived in England and visited Canada. I mentioned Australia simply because I have made it my mission to proclaim my fear of “Monster Isle” and try to get the people there to move before they meet certain doom at the hands of funnel web spiders and taipans.

So, in short, I can’t answer that until I’ve experienced every country. Plus, the issue is more confused because I have an emotional attachment to the US due to the fact that all my stuff is here. And family.

We’re gonna need quantifiable and objective criteria here, **BZ000**. So get crackin’ with that list.

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### Author: ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/15 "2002-11-27T05:08:46Z")

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\<Celyn wonders how many countries **Neurotik** is allowed to list.\>

🙂

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### Author: ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/16 "2002-11-27T05:15:53Z")

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Oops - sort of crossed in the post there. ☹

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### Author: ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/17 "2002-11-27T05:21:55Z")

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It happens. Say, I haven’t seen you around before, **Celyn**.

How _you_ doin’?

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### Author: ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/18 "2002-11-27T05:41:53Z")

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\*\*BZ00000 wrote:

Americans:  
Isn’t it great that God loves only us? Aren’t you glad you were born with God’s love? When you think of all the countries in the world do think it is just chance that God let you be born in the only free country? Or do you know it is God’s love?\*\*

No, God (the J/C/I god) doesn’t love me, I know that for a fact.

I was born in the US because my parents were born here and never moved to another country. My parents were born here because **their** parents were born here or immigrated from elsewhere.

**For Everyone:  
Why did God want so long to create America? Is it because it took this long for people to be ready/deserving?**

God didn’t create the US, a group we call the Founding Fathers did. They got fed up with being on the short end of the political stick from England and decided to declare themselves a separate country.

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### Author: ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/19 "2002-11-27T13:42:12Z")

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[Moderator Hat: ON]

As several people have noted, there is no real debate here. So I’m moving this into the Pit.

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David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator

[Moderator Hat: OFF]

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### Author: ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2002, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-americans-and-god-americans-and-god/139025/20 "2002-11-27T14:02:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \*  
> Are you angry at God because he hates you? I mean how else do you explain the fact that you were not born an American?

It’s the other way round.

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> Do you just sit around and think of ways to become an American?

Why on Earth should I?

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> Do you wish that God loved you enough to allow you to live in the only free country in the world?

He/She/It/They loves/love me enough to allow me **not** to live in the USA.

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> How do feel if you are at war with us and know God is on America’s side?

My BS detector just burned.

Please tell me this is a parody!

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