# Non-bechamel cheese sauce?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-bechamel-cheese-sauce/101406
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [April 2, 2002, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-bechamel-cheese-sauce/101406 "2002-04-02T16:22:07Z")
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### Author: ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2002, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-bechamel-cheese-sauce/101406/1 "2002-04-02T16:22:07Z")

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Below is a recipe I found for a cheese sauce, but it’s making me curious. Since there’s no flour involved, what exactly is holding the damn thing together? The eggs?

2 egg yolks  
1/2 C. beer  
2 T. butter  
3 C. grated sharp Cheddar or Colby cheese  
1 tsp. Worcestershire sauce  
1/4 tsp. dry mustard  
1/2 tsp. salt  
Dash of cayenne pepper

I’m planning on making a batch of sauce in the near future, but I’d feel a lot safer with a bechamel. Can this recipe be modified to include flour? Also, and I can never remember this, if the roux is hot, should the milk be cold? I seem to remember somewhere saying that they should be opposite temperature wise, but it seems to go against common sense to me-I’d think cold milk would break the sauce.

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### Author: ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2002, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-bechamel-cheese-sauce/101406/2 "2002-04-02T16:45:30Z")

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The egg yolks and butter react to form a mayonnaisey sort of sauce. The same principal is used in making [Hollandaise](http://beef.allrecipes.com/AZ/HollandaiseSauce.asp). It works beautifully, as long as you don’t overheat or overcook the egg yolks.

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-bechamel-cheese-sauce/101406/3 "2002-04-02T20:21:02Z")

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Yes, the egg holds it together, but there’s a fair bit of cheese in there too; more than you would put in a bechamel-based sauce (well, more than I would anyway) - the cheese will thicken it a fair bit.

Your recipe is not unlike a fondue.

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### Author: ![Morgainelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Morgainelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgainelf)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2002, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-bechamel-cheese-sauce/101406/4 "2002-04-02T22:40:55Z")

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The recipe looks suspiciously like a Welsh Rarebit (or Rabbit if you’re from southern Louisiana). The eggs thicken it, but it stays together because of the cheese.

As for adding liquid to a roux, it is best to add cool liquids to a hot roux or hot liquids to a cool roux. Here’s a [cite.](http://www.allrecipes.com/cb/kh/soup/roux/default.asp)
