# Non-beef meat burgers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [December 16, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699 "2023-12-16T19:09:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/41 "2023-12-16T23:42:28Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Looks like I have everything for the aioli. I’ve got Madras curry powder, hot curry powder, and garam masala. I think I’ll use the Madras. I do need to get keto buns and a red onion. Raw onions bother The Wife’s stomach (especially red ones), but she’s usually OK with grilled ones.

That sounds awesome.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/42 "2023-12-16T23:43:12Z")

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What seems to make a burger good is the fat content. So beef, sausage and lamb are all fatty meats and make great burgers whereas turkey and chicken are merely meh unless well-sauced, and bison, venison and ostrich are so lean that the burgering\* process doesn’t really work as well with them. Salmon is a nice oily fish and I have made some spectacular salmon burgers (in fact I need to go find my recipe now, because it’s been a while and now I want some), whereas whitefish only works in fried breaded patties.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

\* I’m claiming coinage of this.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/43 "2023-12-17T01:34:53Z")

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The best burger I had in all of Asia was a lamburger in Ahmedabad, India. I was living in China at the time of this visit, and had tried burgers in every place that conceivably had hamburgers, and they universally sucked (well, McD’s was McD’s everywhere from Chicago to Nanjing to Pattaya). Courtyard by Marriott on Satellite Road.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/44 "2023-12-17T01:51:38Z")

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I sometimes make beef and lamb burgers seasoned with garlic and cumin. They taste like gyros meat and should be garnished appropriately. Best served in pocket pitas.

Can also take the form of meat loaf and be served that way for dinner.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/45 "2023-12-17T02:15:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> **Pork.** I’ve never seen a ground pork burger. I’m not counting sausage patties, which are on ‘breakfast sandwiches’ and not burger buns. The closest thing I can think of are the ‘pork tenderloin’ sandwiches that were prevalent at drive-ins in the '70s. Haven’t seen one on a menu in decades, but I gather big-ass breaded pork filets onna bun are popular in the Midwest.

My wife likes listening to the _Recipe Club_ podcast and has made several of those recipes. One of my favorites she has made is a pork burger. OMG…so freaking good! She’s made them a few times. We buy a half a pig from a local farmer each year so we eat quite a bit of pork.

I’m not positive this is the show, but I think it is:

> **[Ground Pork](https://www.theringer.com/2021/2/2/22261508/ground-pork)**
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> Rachel Khong joins Dave and Chris to discuss their recipes featuring this week’s ingredient of choice: ground pork

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/46 "2023-12-17T02:19:26Z")

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I mentioned making lamb burgers tomorrow. The Spousal Unit says she doesn’t like lamb.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/47 "2023-12-17T02:32:23Z")

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My wife won’t eat lamb either.

🤷‍♂️

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/48 "2023-12-17T02:44:38Z")

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She _is_ getting into the chèvre though. (And some chianti salami.)

Come grilling time, I guess I’ll be the one enjoying lamb steaks and grilled lamb chops. And if we go out for Greek, some nice souvlaki. (I _know_ she had a gyro at The Mad Greek in Baker, CA. I _hope_ it was made with lamb.)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/49 "2023-12-17T02:53:15Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Bison are genetically distinct from domestic cows. They are both family _Bovidae_ but bison are _Bison bison_ and cows/beef are _Bos taurus_. So… quite plausible you could be allergic to one and not the other.

Thanks, good info.

I love it when animals have easy-to-remember scientific names like that. If only we could have _dragonfly dragonfly, cobra cobra,_ and _squirrel squirrel._

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/50 "2023-12-17T03:26:06Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> whereas whitefish only works in fried breaded patties.

Please pardon my snip, but I disagree. Granted, that whitefish _by itself_ makes a subpar burger option, but fish taco-style ingredients in a patty works great! I quote my version from a prior thread on fish sandwich/burgers.

> [@Fish sandwich ideas](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-sandwich-ideas/946411/15):
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> In general I’m more likely to make fish tacos than fish burgers because less work is needed. The last time I made homemade fish burgers, my mix was like this -
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> Moderate chop on cheap pacific cod from store, fine chop on red onion, green onion, jalapenos and cilantro. Season with salt, and a touch of my favorite hot sauce. Add egg mixed with a dash of lime as a binder. Form into patties and leave in fridge to chill and firm up (30 minutes or so). Using just a touch of remaining beaten egg for adherence, generously apply a coating of panko bread crumbs to top and bottom.
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> Cook in well seasoned cast iron pan on medium heat until done. I served on some store-bought telera rolls I keep for general purpose buns, but any decent bread would work. I find that since I prefer the slightly chunky bits of fish compared to @alovem, I prefer a softer bun so it’s less likely to fall apart as I chew through ciabatta, but I can’t deny I love ciabatta as well. 🙂

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/51 "2023-12-17T03:40:47Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Come grilling time, I guess I’ll be the one enjoying lamb steaks and grilled lamb chops.

It’s like I say, just more for me. 😁

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/52 "2023-12-17T03:59:09Z")

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My comment exactly. Well said.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/53 "2023-12-17T10:07:16Z")

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Ostrich burgers are the standard burger in my house. They’re usually made with some pork or lamb fat added.

Kudu and springbok burgers are an occasional item when they’re in stock.

And crocodile, when we go to the one town that has a croc farm.

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When we have “burgers” they are either beef or turkey, we don’t really distinguish between the two. The turkey farm sells ground turkey patties with many different flavorings. Albuquerque Turkey is a favorite.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/55 "2023-12-18T15:35:42Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I love it when animals have easy-to-remember scientific names like that. If only we could have _dragonfly dragonfly, cobra cobra,_ and _squirrel squirrel._

I am now visualizing a bipedal dog in a lab coat saying, “Squirrel! Squirrel!”

As far as food nomenclature is concerned, in my mind, “burger” requires both meat and bread. Without the bread, it is “\_\_\_\_burger patty”, or “\_\_\_burger steak”.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/56 "2023-12-18T16:27:56Z")

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What about the In-N-Out “Protein Style” burger?

> **[Protein Style Burger - In-N-Out Secret Menu | #HackTheMenu](https://hackthemenu.com/in-n-out/secret-menu/protein-style-burger/)**
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> The In-N-Out Protein Style Burger gained popularity with the explosion of the no-carb diet, but it has remained a popular item on the In-N-Out Secret Menu.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/57 "2023-12-18T17:15:07Z")

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I’ve had oryx, as a ground meat I can’t say it was anything unique, I’d much rather try a roast of anything exotic. You don’t need to go to Africa though, there are large populations wild/feral in New Mexico and Texas. You’d need to hunt it in NM, and Texas being Texas probably either hunted or farmed. Texans did save another species from extinction though, the scimitar oryx.

Wild game needs fat, but in my experience people use pork fat most often, as it’s easier to get than beef fat. And I think doesn’t overpower the meat as much with beefiness.

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You can do it in English too, without Bison bison how would you have [Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo)?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/59 "2023-12-18T21:58:16Z")

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Mahi-Mahi burger with cheese, on low-carb bread today.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-beef-meat-burgers/994699/60 "2023-12-18T22:41:01Z")

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I had a horse burger, in Metz, France one time. Not really recommended; a bit lean. Not horrible, though.

I’ve got no real qualms about eating horse, since horses have been food animals longer than they have been beasts of burden.

But in an ideal world I wouldn’t eat any meat that came directly from animals; a century or two from now, most meat will probably come from a vat of some kind. This won’t happen until vat meat tastes as good as, or better than, animal meat, is cheaper, and has less impact on the environment. This isn’t going to happen any time soon, but I expect it will happen eventually.

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