# Non-Californians: What Do You Want To Say To SDMB California Voters? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 5, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677 "2003-10-05T06:53:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/21 "2003-10-07T21:39:11Z")
Time to let ol’ Painless out of the bag. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/22 "2003-10-07T21:56:01Z")
It’s jarring to see that some jamoke with $1.5million can hijack the legitimate government of a US state. And the damn fool didn’t even get _himself_ elected ! Gov. Davis didn’t break any laws or do anything unethical. He was rightly elected, and he should be allowed to serve his full term. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/23 "2003-10-07T23:11:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BraheSilver \* > I think it’s a bit late to keep us from “making California look like a land of idiots.” Um, like, DECADES! 😛 Davis signing the bill giving drivers’ licenses for illegal immigrants makes the movement of terrorists within the entire USA, **not just California** , even easier than it already is (\thanks a lot!\). As long as we’ve gotten to this point already, I say vote “yes” on the recall just for this bonehead position and vote for Arnold. If you don’t like Arnold, look at it this way: the next governor is almost certainly going to have a very tough time fixing the huge problems Davis is responsible for. Let him take the heat instead. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by AskNott_ > It’s jarring to see that some jamoke with $1.5million can hijack the legitimate government of a US state. It’s jarring to see things like people saying the recall is undemocratic or someone can “hijack the legitimate government” because this is simply wrong. You can say _this_ recall is a bad idea or that the CA constitution should be amended to eliminate or restrict recalls and we can talk. However, your statement is, as I said, wrong because recalls are in the democratically established constitution. > [@](#): > > Gov. Davis didn’t break any laws or do anything unethical. The CA constitution doesn’t place these limits on the recall. ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/24 "2003-10-08T00:09:30Z")
If Arnold Schwarzeneggar is elected governor of California, then Bush will make thirty appearances there next summer. California has what, like fifty electoral votes or something? The Bush campaign wrote off California pretty early in 2000, but if Arnold is governor they won’t do that this time. They’ll make a play for the state, and even if they don’t win it, the challenger’s camp will have to defend itself there. And every day, and every dollar they spend in California is one they can’t spend in a swing state like Pennsylvania, Wext Virginia, or Florida. I don’t want George Bush to be the president anymore, so I’d rather not see Arnold Schwarzeneggar as governor of California. Other than that factor, I don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/25 "2003-10-08T00:19:40Z")
You’re screwed. Have a nice day, though :). ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/26 "2003-10-08T00:24:32Z")
Wext Virginia, the little-known state between Tesas and Nopth Dakota. ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/27 "2003-10-08T12:51:40Z")
Aww, crap. ---
**Author:** ![Dogface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Dogface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogface)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/28 "2003-10-08T14:32:33Z")
HA! Davis was outed with a larger percentage of a larger number of voters than actually elected him in the first place! ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/29 "2003-10-08T16:45:06Z")
I would just say to you all: \ :smack: \ But hey, I live under a Repub govnuh and mayuh and we’re still sinnin’ and taxin’ away here. ---
**Author:** ![Magickly\_Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magickly\_Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magickly_Delicious)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/30 "2003-10-08T21:26:22Z")
I’m with the pointing and laughing group. David Cassidy for California senator! _runs away_ ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/31 "2003-10-08T21:58:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \* > \*\* > > But hey, I live under a Repub govnuh and mayuh and we’re still sinnin’ and taxin’ away here. \*\* See now, no one told me there’s be more sinning. I’m all for that! ---
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/32 "2003-10-09T07:32:52Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s jarring to see that some jamoke with $1.5million can hijack the legitimate government of a US state. And the damn fool didn’t even get himself elected ! Yep, when I signed the petition for the recall, it was only because I was paid to, and then threatened physically by the petition-taker. It had nothing to do with the way I felt about the issue. That wouldn’t be possible at all. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/33 "2003-10-09T14:41:45Z")
The number I read in the papers are that California residents get back $0.70 in federal services, such as highway and other infrastructure, for every $1 in federal taxes paid. I also read that GW will do everything he can to help Arnie win the state’s electoral votes in 2004. If that includes more California tax money returned to California it will come out of your pockets so laugh while you can. As Texas Guinan (sp?) used to say, “Hello, Suckers.” ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/34 "2003-10-09T15:12:35Z")
**"Uzi 9mm."** ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/35 "2003-10-09T15:23:45Z")
**"Uzi 9mm."** ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/36 "2003-10-09T21:49:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Futile Gesture \* > \*\ ***“Uzi 9mm.”** \*\* I think I’m whooshed, but is this a reference to The Terminator? As in the line after “Phase plasma rifle in 40-watt range.”? [http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/maddog/terminator.html](http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/maddog/terminator.html) ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/37 "2003-10-09T22:04:28Z")
I knew this was going to happen. Swear to god, premonition that Davis would get kicked off & Schwarzenegger elected. As a non-Californian who has lived in the state (and was there in the summer of 2001) I have to say Hah! Big popular actor media figure runs for a position in office, makes little or no stand on his position in the debates and problems, and gets elected. By a landslide, IIRC. IMHO the voters just made a mockery out of the state government. My piece of the colelctive $802.14 ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2003, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/38 "2003-10-10T09:46:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Controvert \* > \*\*I think I’m whooshed, but is this a reference to The Terminator? \*\* It’s a line of Arnie’s dialogue. Hard to miss, there’s only 16 of them. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2003, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/39 "2003-10-10T11:14:44Z")
I think that instead of playing the state song for Arnold (or whatever music is played when the Guv makes an entrance) they should play the Terminator Menacing Theme Song. And when the state legislature doesn’t vote his way, Arnold’s left eye should glow an evil red color, then he should produce a sawed-off shotgun from under his duster and annihilate the whole state senate. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677/40 "2003-10-10T12:36:40Z")
Or maybe the same music they play whenever Darth Vader walks into a room. Native Californian, but I left when I was a wee lad and identify more with Florida or nowhere at all. So, from a Florida perspective, misery loves company. Voters generally get the politicians they deserve. It will be interesting to view this from a year or two distance. But it could get scary if the national economy perks up, as it shows signs of doing, and Arnold gets the credit. I saw a Republican pundit (chairman of the national committee?) gloating about how they own the governor’s mansion in California, Texas, Florida and New York now. Which only served to reinforce the Senator Palpatine image. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-californians-what-do-you-want-to-say-to-sdmb-california-voters/205677.md?page=3)