# Non-comic book characters who would make great Avengers (or JLAers)

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**Created:** [October 15, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789 "2007-10-15T14:39:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/21 "2007-10-16T15:22:28Z")

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For the record, manga count as “comics,” right?

•Hmmm…I was going to suggest [The Doctor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Doctor), but he might be a tad overpowered for a super-team…On the other hand, both the Avengers and JLA have had actual _gods_.\*  
•James Bond—might not be flamboyant yet technically non-murderous enough for the teams in question, though. Maybe he could try out for the Ultimates.  
•Jonny Quest—(Most recent version). General purpose sidekick.  
•[Cybersix](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersix)—Technically a comics character, but since it was a gritty, B&W, somewhat adult themed graphic novel from South America, I figure she deserves a pass. Plus, I liked the cartoon. A good character for a Marvel superhero team, what with the whole “hated and feared” kick they’ve got going.

For villains…

•Dr. Herbert West: the Reanimator. Master of clever, weasely scheming, and morbid doodling in undead flesh.  
•Maximilian from _The Black Hole_. (Arch-henchman, at least.)  
•[Dr. Anton Phibes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Phibes_Rises_Again)—organist, theologan, reconstructive surgery enthusiast, gruesomely creative theme-murderer. Also, he’s Vincent Price. Good for clearing out hero stables and rogue’s galleries of crappy characters.  
•Dolph Lundgren’s Sgt. Andrew “GR-13” Scott from _Universal Soldier_, your basic crazy, psychopathic cyborg…zombie…bioroid…thing. Guy. Anyway, he did “crazy” amusingly well (_“It’s…EMPTY!”_).  
•Roland, The Headless Thompson Gunner.—Or maybe he was a hero. Hard to tell…he doesn’t say a word.  
\*Which reminds me, I was thinking of starting a “Which fictional characters would you deify?” thread. The good Doctor, Santa Claus, and Alucard were on the list.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/22 "2007-10-16T22:06:16Z")

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**Sherlock Holmes** as a team leader.

And, if we are doing villains–the French Pulp Magazine villain beyond compare: the sociopathic **Fantomas**!

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/23 "2007-10-16T22:34:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
And, if we are doing villains–the French Pulp Magazine villain beyond compare: the sociopathic **Fantomas**!  
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Introduced into the X-Men titles by Grant Morrison as Fantomex.

The Lensmen would make great JLA allies. (What? What? \>\_\> )

The Phantom would make a good replacement for Batman once the JLA get tired of his jackassery.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/24 "2007-10-16T22:37:59Z")

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James Carville as **Captain Cueball**.  
Oprah Winfrey as **The Empath**.

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/25 "2007-10-17T01:14:28Z")

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Ripped-Shirt Kirk?

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/26 "2007-10-17T03:59:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Tengu]  
The Phantom would make a good replacement for Batman once the JLA get tired of his jackassery.  
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I was basically angling for Gil the Arm to get the super detective slot when Bats goes off to sulk in his cave, or is in bat-rehab, or whatever. 😃

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-characters-who-would-make-great-avengers-or-jlaers/422789/27 "2007-10-17T04:29:18Z")

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Several of the characters from _Drinking Midnight Wine_ would be good in comics. Hob the Serpent’s Son as a villain, Angel the Descended Angel as both villain and hero depending on whether she has her memories. Jimmy Thunder, God for Hire as a hero of course. Gaia and Luna as goddesses, the Serpent In The Sun as the cosmic level baddie, and Leo Morn the werewolf as the sleazy antihero.

From _Beyond the Blue Moon_, Jericho Lament. The Walking Man, Wrath Of God In The World of Men. He would make a good Ghost Rider style sinner-smiter. Plus he has a great name.

The Powers and Dominations from the Nightside series would typically make good superheros and villains; they basically are. Razor Eddie is like the Flash with body odor and an unstoppable knife. La Belle Dame sans Merci would make a good and grusome villain, especially with her habit of augmenting her power by attaching useful parts of her victims to herself ( living werewolf fur cloak, skin from a vampire; that sort of thing ). The protagonist John Taylor would do well; his “find/get anything” talent would be quite useful. Dead Boy would be a good mid-range grim hero type. And many others I’d mention if I hadn’t loaned my copies of the books out.

Khadaji, The Man Who Never Missed would make a very good action hero/master planner type.

Timothy Zahn’s Cobra commandos would make good superheros. superhumanly strong, with built in lasers ( one in each hand, a bigger one in a heel ), enhanced senses, computer controlled superspeed combat reflexes. And all carefully designed to be very hard to detect, so they look perfectly human.

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