# Non comic book readers, a poll regarding Wonder Woman

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 20, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219 "2011-06-20T22:46:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/21 "2011-06-21T07:24:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Or [Allison Stokke](http://www.popcrunch.com/50-images-that-would-make-awesome-dorm-room-posters/allison-stokke/), maybe.

Yowsa. Is she 5’ 10" or taller?

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/22 "2011-06-21T07:28:24Z")

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I didn’t know she wasn’t an American. I didn’t think she was American either. I had never really thought about it. Don’t pay any attention to comic book characters really.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/23 "2011-06-21T11:17:53Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Superman, on the other hand, is, quite legitimately, an American citizen, due to his adoption by the Kents.

Does the American adoption process make Superman lose his Kryptonian status (you might argue that there is no more Krypton, but Kandor still exists)?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/24 "2011-06-21T16:16:41Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A lot of people (including myself) would probably be thinking of a real country rather than someplace like Paradise Island (aka Themyscira) or Krypton. Or even Qurac or Wakanda.

What, so now you’re telling us that Canada is a real country?

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**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/25 "2011-06-21T16:23:00Z")

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I thought she was from Greece because of the whole Amazon thing. Didn’t know the name of the island.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/26 "2011-06-21T23:51:36Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Superman, on the other hand, is, quite legitimately, an American citizen, due to his adoption by the Kents.

Superman wasn’t adopted, Clark Kent was. I’d say anyone that wasn’t born in the US but has a US secret identity is pretty much in the same boat in terms of “where they are from”. Then there’s also the factor of “which version” as all these characters have been endlessly rebooted with different back stories. Although if you’re taking about where the hero is _currently_ considered as belonging to, then Wonder Woman is a different case. It’s harder to say with alien refugees.

> [@Tengu](#):
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> This post is inspired by the latest feud thread, and occurred to me yesterday, but I didn’t want to skew results, so I waited until it was closed before posting…

Where is this thread?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/27 "2011-06-22T04:05:29Z")

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[Here you go](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=612993). There’s one of these run about every week or so (they’re not usually about superheroes).

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/28 "2011-06-22T07:00:33Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Superman wasn’t adopted, Clark Kent was.

Superman IS Clark Kent, just like Batman IS Bruce Wayne. It’s the name he was given by his adoptive parents when he was adopted as an infant. To most of the people close to him, he’s Clark. To a handful of the people close to him, he’s Kal - but even they (Kara, Diana) would not deny that the Kents were very much real parents to him, and played the major role in shaping him, even in continuities where he remembers Jor-El and Lara. (The Last Family of Krypton Elseworld is a good exploration of this - Jor-El and Lara survived along with Kal…but Kal still ended up ‘going native’ after being fostered with the Kents.)

Clark Kent is NOT the same as Diana Prince - Diana Prince is an alias, an identity belonging to someone else, or created out of whole cloth, by an adult, to hide behind. Diana Prince is more like the _Superman_ identity - that’s the name, adopted as an adult, that’s separate from his real identity.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/29 "2011-06-22T14:04:18Z")

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The mousy Diana Prince thing never made sense to me, anyway. I can understand Wonder Woman choosing to dress conservatively and inconspicuously to blend in with with a bunch of modern-day westerners, but wearing glasses and acting meek? That’s a blatant Clark Kent ripoff and I figure the biggest flaw in how the character was conceived.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-comic-book-readers-a-poll-regarding-wonder-woman/586219/30 "2011-06-22T14:17:59Z")

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I read comic books as a kid so I didn’t answer the poll. But I definitely remember that Wonder Woman was an Amazon from Paradise Island.

Xena Warrior Princess changed the image of Super Women for lots of people; she even hung with the Amazons. Of course Lucy Lawless is too old now, but the [Wonder Woman](http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/03/18/wonder-woman-adrianne-palicki-photo/) from the abortive reboot definitely did _not_ make it.

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