# Non-Ford-Chevy-Chrysler hot rods?

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**Created:** [August 28, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980 "2005-08-28T15:11:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/1 "2005-08-28T15:11:19Z")

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I like to watch the various car shows on the weekend and the hot rods they feature always seem to be Fords/Chevys/Chryslers (including Dodge & Plymouth).

Obviously, this because those three manufacturers made the most/popular cars.

How about some cool cars from other manufacturers? Any recommended sites?

I’m sick to death of seeing '32-34 Fords, '55-57 Chevys, and late 60s/early 70’s Mopars.

Hell, I’d pay to see someone slam a Pacer, Gremlin, or some other car not known for its hot-rodability.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/2 "2005-08-28T15:25:12Z")

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Here’s a [Studebaker](http://www.hotrodders.com/vehicles/151.html) . If you search this site, you’ll find a lot of non big three vehicles. What I’d like to see is a hot rod with something besides(yawn) a 350 chevy motor.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/3 "2005-08-28T16:04:15Z")

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I don’t know whether you noticed, but the rodder fraternity is not exactly a hothouse of individual creativity. It’s dominated by grown-up high school boys, Joe Sixpacks who want most of all to Belong.

The rods may be different from one another, but they’re alike in all the important ways: shag carpet, bucket seats, flame jobs, mags, yada yada. The innovators in the field, the George Barrises et al, are few and notable.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/4 "2005-08-28T16:12:32Z")

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I was watching _American Hot Rod_ (fast forwarding any part where Boyd Coddington is flapping his gums) and a recent program was about the crew building a hot rod for some large corporation (I forget the company) and before the car was announced, I said, “I’ll bet it’s going to be a '32-34 Ford”.

I was right.

Once in a while, an oddity will pop up. Like this [1936 Airflow](http://www.barrett-jackson.com/events/scottsdale/vehicles/cardetail_list.asp?id=178146). Yes, it’s a Chrysler, but at least it isn’t a Challenger or Charger.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/5 "2005-08-28T16:31:42Z")

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I always loved the Stone, Woods & Cook ['41 Willys.](http://www.nhra.com/museum/features/feature8.html) At the same NHRA Museum is a pretty cool [Fiat](http://www.nhra.com/museum/features/feature22.html).

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/6 "2005-08-28T18:07:36Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Once in a while, an oddity will pop up. Like this [1936 Airflow](http://www.barrett-jackson.com/events/scottsdale/vehicles/cardetail_list.asp?id=178146). Yes, it’s a Chrysler, but at least it isn’t a Challenger or Charger.

Back when I had a subscription ('80s), I saw an Airflow in Hot Rod Magazine.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/7 "2005-08-28T18:13:36Z")

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How 'bout [A Pacer 4×4](http://www.vincewylde.com/photo/archives/000129.php#000129)? [Here’s a Pacer at the drag races](http://www.vincewylde.com/photo/archives/000127.php#000127).

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/8 "2005-08-28T18:15:39Z")

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Come to think of it, that Airflow article I saw in Hot Rod also featured a LaSalle.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/9 "2005-08-28T18:37:12Z")

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[Found a Webshots folder with a bunch of unusual ones](http://community.webshots.com/album/378927814lktJSD). Also, try browsing the [My Classic Car photo galleries](http://www.myclassiccar.com/CoolCars/photogallery/archive/index.shtml), [here’s a '31 Buick](http://www.myclassiccar.com/CoolCars/photogallery/archive/2003/2003-12-29/Frank-&-Mike-Toman.jpg). Look for the My Classic Car TV show if you get [The Speed Channel](http://www.speedtv.com/home.php).

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/10 "2005-08-28T22:36:18Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Hell, I’d pay to see someone slam a Pacer, Gremlin, or some other car not known for its hot-rodability.

Back in the day there was article in Hot Rod or Car Craft about a guy who put a 400 in a Gremlin. He said it was tricky to handle because the rear end kept trying to pass the front.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/11 "2005-08-29T03:58:44Z")

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There are quite a few V8 Datsun 240-Z’s kicking around. You could make a beautiful car out of one of those.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/12 "2005-08-29T04:51:38Z")

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There are some VW Bug “hot rods” around. Fenders removed and the quarter panels smoothed to look hi-boy, chopped top, primer paint jobs with Mooneyes stickers… the whole 9 yards.

[![](http://www.socalook.com/gallery/3_4%20Frnt-ACCD.jpg) ](http://www.socalook.com/gallery/3_4%20Frnt-ACCD.jpg)

[http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rolls.pleats/ContNo7bug.jpg](http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rolls.pleats/ContNo7bug.jpg)

I don’t really see the point. It’s the automotive equivalent of mixing metaphors: “It’s a sensible German economy car with the soul of a 50s greaser!”

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/13 "2005-08-29T04:58:58Z")

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I once knew a guy (online) who had a Model A body on a mid-70s Jeep 4X4 with a Cadillac 500 engine. Sure, a Model A is a little bellybutton-ish (i.e., everybody has one), but the final product looked as much like a logging truck as a street rod. Besides, how many people go mudding in their hotrod?

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/14 "2005-08-29T05:05:25Z")

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> [@bradministrator](#):
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> There are some VW Bug “hot rods” around. Fenders removed and the quarter panels smoothed to look hi-boy, chopped top, primer paint jobs with Mooneyes stickers… the whole 9 yards.
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> [http://www.socalook.com/gallery/3\_4%20Frnt-ACCD.jpg](http://www.socalook.com/gallery/3_4%20Frnt-ACCD.jpg)
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> [http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rolls.pleats/ContNo7bug.jpg](http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rolls.pleats/ContNo7bug.jpg)
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> I don’t really see the point. It’s the automotive equivalent of mixing metaphors: “It’s a sensible German economy car with the soul of a 50s greaser!”

People have put 70s Eldorado drivetrains (500CID, front wheel drive) into the backs of bugs. I think that the focus was on power to weight, definitely not on handling.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/15 "2005-08-29T13:02:00Z")

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I used to own (built it myself) a '47 Hudson pickup with a Ford 302.

[Like this one](http://www.bluemoongear.com/ArchCarPics/47HudsonPU.jpg) ; mine was blue and gray.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/16 "2005-08-29T13:40:34Z")

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You’ll occasionally see Pontiacs (especially older ones like GTOs) tricked out for radical performance but still powered by a Pontiac mill. The 421 high-output (HO) and super-duty (SD) engines were pretty impressive high-compression engines. (Problem with running them nowadays is getting the fuel for them).

I remember seeing a 401-powered AMC Pacer that had serious motion to it, too.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/17 "2005-08-29T14:15:33Z")

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Modern thing I tend to see a lot is a Neon with a previous-gen Stang GT engine and drivetrain shoehorned in.

Failing that, the SRT-4 Neon engine goes a lot of places. Including a Bonneville '32 Ford.

How bout a pimped out Isetta?  
[http://www.mothers.com/powertour/powertour99/PT99\_Txt/PT99\_May19.html](http://www.mothers.com/powertour/powertour99/PT99_Txt/PT99_May19.html)

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-ford-chevy-chrysler-hot-rods/318980/18 "2005-08-29T14:18:39Z")

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Unless there are available parts for hot rodding the process gets much more complicated. Not a lot of shops have the ability to fabricate a lot of parts from scratch.
