# Non-Newtonian solids (well... sort of)

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 9, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212 "2005-11-09T15:14:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/1 "2005-11-09T15:14:39Z")

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Are there such things as non-Newtonian solids, i.e. polymers that offer greater resistance to fast deformation than slow?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/2 "2005-11-09T15:26:14Z")

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Does Silly Putty count? (Yeah, I know it’s supposed to be a non-Newtonian liquid, but at short time scales it behaves like a solid polymer. )

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/3 "2005-11-09T15:35:05Z")

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Possibly, but I’m thinking of materials that could be spun into fibres, to make a fabric that was pliable but became rigid under impact (thus distributing the force of impact over a greater area).

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**Author:** ![ImaginalDisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e57/32.png) [@ImaginalDisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImaginalDisc)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/4 "2005-11-09T16:40:06Z")

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Quicksand, or even sand temporrily liquefacted by an earthquake.

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**Author:** ![ImaginalDisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e57/32.png) [@ImaginalDisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImaginalDisc)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/5 "2005-11-09T16:42:09Z")

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> [@ImaginalDisc](#):
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> Quicksand, or even sand temporrily liquefacted by an earthquake.

Sorry, not only am i having trouble spelling, but I’m not if the answer I thought of was well considered. Quicksand is composed of solid particles mixed with a liquid, and in the case of liquifacted sand, well the name of the behavior may say it all.

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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/6 "2005-11-09T17:04:25Z")

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I don’t think you can make thread out of it, but cornstarch mixed in water acts like that.

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**Author:** ![MikeS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MikeS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeS)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/7 "2005-11-09T17:23:25Z")

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I’m no expert, but doesn’t Kevlar essentially work like this?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/8 "2005-11-09T18:11:33Z")

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> [@MikeS](#):
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> I’m no expert, but doesn’t Kevlar essentially work like this?

For that matter, don’t _all_ fibrous fabrics do this to some extent? When you compress a mat of fibers, they usually get stiffer. I’d expect a fabric made of extremely rigid, yet fuzzy, fibers to resist rapid deformation from things like bullets better than a fabric made of floppy, slippery strands.  
With [Kevlar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevlar), you also have things like hydrogen bonds between fibers working for you.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/9 "2005-11-09T20:07:56Z")

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Awesome link: [http://chaos.ph.utexas.edu/research/vibrated\_cornstarch.htm](http://chaos.ph.utexas.edu/research/vibrated_cornstarch.htm)  
Be sure to watch the video.  
courtesy of Ars Technica [http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2005/11/9/1771](http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2005/11/9/1771)

Brian

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-newtonian-solids-well-sort-of/330212/10 "2005-11-09T21:26:27Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Possibly, but I’m thinking of materials that could be spun into fibres, to make a fabric that was pliable but became rigid under impact (thus distributing the force of impact over a greater area).

I remember reading about gloves that could do this a while back. But it might have had a liquid layer that solidifies so I’m not sure if that counts.
