# Non-PC Food Names

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 1, 2016, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587 "2016-05-01T10:52:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/101 "2017-07-14T19:02:52Z")

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> [@tadtooornamental](#):
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> Not sure where in Western Wisconsin you are, but there is actually a huge Mexican population in Monroe County at least (specifically the Norwalk/Sparta/Rockland area).
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> I remember being told Brazil nuts were known as n-ers toes as a child, but I don’t believe that was ever an official name.

That’s what I grew up knowing them as, till I learned better.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/102 "2017-07-14T20:43:59Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I had to google that. It sounds like it may be similar to scrapple.

Sorry, meant to say any big supermarket in the UK. I think it’s got less grain than scrapple though - it’s essentially a meatball.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/103 "2017-07-14T22:06:40Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> Sorry, meant to say any big supermarket in the UK. I think it’s got less grain than scrapple though - it’s essentially a meatball.

Ah. Scrapple comes in a block and you slice and fry it.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/104 "2017-07-14T23:06:10Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> (snip)…
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> We also grew up with “n\*\*\*\*r toes” for Brazil nuts and something similarly racist for those little black, anise-y bears (can’t remember what the term was). Many of my family members, buried deep in the rural West, still use these terms and it’s a shock to hear these terms in the 21st Century :eek:
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> Aunt Jemima’s Pancake Mix and Uncle Ben’s Rice had some really racist packaging back in the day.

See post #52. Marginally less offensive was “tarbabies”.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I’m not aware of any offensive meaning in English, either, but the fact that it’s not offensive in the original language doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t be offensive in a target language. (I know you’re not explicitly stating that, but I want to clarify.) For example, “polack” is and has been considered a derogatory term for Polish people, at least in the US, for quite some time now, well before PC was a term everyone knew. “Polak” literally means “a Pole (male)” in Polish. (“Polka” is the feminine counterpart.)

And was so used, in a non-derogatory way, by Shakespeare:

Upon our first, he sent out to suppress  
His nephew’s levies, which to him appeared  
To be a preparation 'gainst the Polack,  
But, better looked into, he truly found  
It was against your highness.

_Hamlet_, Act II, scene 2.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/105 "2017-07-15T01:38:06Z")

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In the mid-nineties in Washington State, the bulk candy aisle at our local grocery store carried Irish Babies–I think they were like Swedish Fish. We never bought them, but always made modest proposal jokes when we passed by them.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/106 "2017-07-15T01:40:48Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> Aunt Jemima’s Pancake Mix and Uncle Ben’s Rice had some really racist packaging back in the day.

Since most Cajun and Creole recipes (notably Paul Prudhomme’s) call specifically for converted rice, you’re going to have to take my Uncle Ben’s from my cold, dead saucepans.

Besides, Unc’s looking pretty dapper these days.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/107 "2017-07-15T02:03:29Z")

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I always enjoy making a _puttanesca_ sauce (recipes are all over the net, I add portobello mushrooms for extra taste.) Its a fine, meatless sauce. And I love mentioning it, because it upsets my mother – “That’s not a nice word.”

But that’s what its called. Puttanesca. Puttanesca. PUTTANESCA

Anyone want more whore sauce on their spaghetti?

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/108 "2017-07-15T11:27:48Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> **Pan** -half-the-world, they’re the default for that kind of bread through the Americas, in Spain, and I’ve seen their products in other European countries.

I saw what we did there. 😉

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/109 "2017-07-15T14:21:50Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> what they call sugar babies used to be called "ni\*\*er babies in the old candy stores and theres atill horehounds…

> [@quiltguy](#):
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> I fondly remember a tasty anise-flavored jelly-like penny candy that were commonly called n\*\*\*er babies, due to their shape and color(I wonder what name was stamped on the box?) They are still made, I believe though they are now called Anise Bears.

Odd. In New England we had chocolate babies, little chocolate flavored candy shaped like brown people, abut “N-Babies” were little licorice flavored candy shaped like black people.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/110 "2017-07-15T16:39:20Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Odd. In New England we had chocolate babies, little chocolate flavored candy shaped like brown people…

What, Mexicans? :dubious: :eek: 😕

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/111 "2017-07-15T17:35:00Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Can’t believe no one has mentioned **Shit on Shingles** yet.
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> One of my faves growing up.

My Dad used to tell me about “donkey dorks” being served at the mess at West Point. Ground meat wrapped in cabbage in the shape of…well, you know. Also military slang but the military is so big that it’s literally it’s own culture in many respects so I think it qualifies. At least it’s not of racist origin like so many of these are.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/112 "2017-07-16T00:10:42Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> My Dad used to tell me about “donkey dorks” being served at the mess at West Point. Ground meat wrapped in cabbage in the shape of…well, you know. Also military slang but the military is so big that it’s literally it’s own culture in many respects so I think it qualifies. At least it’s not of racist origin like so many of these are.

Not only is the military big enough to be its own culture, it’s big enough to have its own accent. Linguists have identified a common accent among military kids who have been educated in base schools all over the world.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/113 "2017-07-16T00:29:30Z")

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When I moved to St. Paul in 2000, I was surprised to discover the Hot Dago sandwich. At the time, I was surprised to see an ethnic slur on a bun. I see it less frequently on menus now.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/114 "2017-07-16T02:24:30Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> My Dad used to tell me about “donkey dorks” being served at the mess at West Point. Ground meat wrapped in cabbage in the shape of…well, you know. Also military slang but the military is so big that it’s literally it’s own culture in many respects so I think it qualifies. At least it’s not of racist origin like so many of these are.

Stuffed cabbage libel!

Stuffed cabbage cooked on a bed of tomato, more cabbage, plus sauerkraut, is the dish of the gods.

Granted, at West Point they probably take less pains with it then they do in Budapest.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/115 "2017-07-16T02:28:39Z")

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> [@Ispolkom](#):
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> When I moved to St. Paul in 2000, I was surprised to discover the Hot Dago sandwich. At the time, I was surprised to see an ethnic slur on a bun. I see it less frequently on menus now.

Jesus, they sound good, though.

> **[Hot Dago Sandwich](http://minabema.blogspot.com/2010/10/hot-dago-sandwich.html)**
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> One of the lunches our family really likes, especially as the weather gets cooler, is the hot dago.  It is easy to make and, since you can d...

What if I made up a batch and called them “Hot Michelangelos” ?

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Jesus, they sound good, though.
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> [Once Upon a Family: Hot Dago Sandwich](http://minabema.blogspot.com/2010/10/hot-dago-sandwich.html)
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> What if I made up a batch and called them “Hot Michelangelos” ?

There are various euphemisms, like “Hot Paisano,” or the “Cosetta sandwich,” or, most commonly, “Italian sausage sandwich,” but there are still places that use the traditional name. The hold-outs are generally old-line Italian delis and restaurants (though many like Cosetta’s and Little Oven have changed).

The last time I had a “Hot Paisano” I realized I’m too old to eat that stuff. Sad. Sort of like the last time I had Harold’s Chicken in Chicago.

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Ten years ago I went birthday shopping for my little son on Orchard Street, Lower East Side of Manhattan, then stopped in at Katz’s Delicatessen and had a hot pastrami sandwich and a beer for breakfast.

Yeah, I’ve learned to dial it back, too.

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> [@Ispolkom](#):
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> Hot Dago

Your tax dollars at work! :mad:

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-food-names/753587/119 "2017-07-16T04:41:45Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Not only is the military big enough to be its own culture, it’s big enough to have its own accent. Linguists have identified a common accent among military kids who have been educated in base schools all over the world.

As a former military kid, you caught my attention. “Military” is a pretty broad term, and it’s hard to imagine Navy folk, Army folk and Air Force and Marines having some kind of similar accent. Navy, for instance, uses different ranks and different terminology for stuff on the base, and then once you get on a ship you practically speak a foreign language what with all the nautical terminology.

But I’d be interested in reading about it if you remember where you learned this.

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Buckeyes.

/runs

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