# Non-PC songs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 15, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820 "2008-11-15T05:09:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/42 "2018-04-03T19:51:59Z")

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Genesis “Illegal Alien” and it’s [equally cringeworthy video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61hzuGGJX0)

Some of Devin Townsend’s lyrics are surprisingly homophobic, such as “Random Analysis”:

_Faggot is as faggot does with every little faggot thing a faggot do  
I’m not insane, I’m not insane…I’m just smarter than you  
You’re acting like a day old male  
Day old female_

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/43 "2018-04-03T20:03:28Z")

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Spam reported(pav1).

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/44 "2018-04-03T20:08:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Spam reported(pav1).

Great, now everyone’s gonna think _I_ zombiefied this thread. 😛

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/45 "2018-04-03T20:09:43Z")

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“What Made the Red Man Red” from Peter Pan.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/46 "2018-04-03T20:29:24Z")

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Spooky Tooth: “You Broke My Heart So I Busted Your Jaw”.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/47 "2018-04-03T20:33:16Z")

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“[Belsen Was a Gas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belsen_Was_a_Gas)” - Sex Pistols.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/48 "2018-04-03T20:52:46Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> Rednecks - Randy Newman

_Yellow Man,_ Randy Newman

Eatin’ rice all day  
While the children play  
You see he believes  
In the family  
Just like you and me  
Oh, yellow man, oh, yellow man…  
…got to have a yellow woman  
When you’re a yellow man.

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/49 "2018-04-03T22:14:25Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Fat-Bottomed Girls?

Fat-Bottomed Girls is not non-PC. Fat-Bottomed Girls is praise & worship music. 😃

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**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/50 "2018-04-03T22:35:03Z")

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This appeals to my puerile sense of humour: [http://www.subliminalmessages.com/205\_lawyer.htm/](http://www.subliminalmessages.com/205_lawyer.htm/)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/51 "2018-04-04T01:36:04Z")

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Has [Big Bad Bruce](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6GaZzNX8U) been mentioned? It was a parody of _Big Bad John_, but, you know, gay.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/52 "2018-04-04T01:57:28Z")

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> [@K364](#):
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> This appeals to my puerile sense of humour: [http://www.subliminalmessages.com/205\_lawyer.htm/](http://www.subliminalmessages.com/205_lawyer.htm/)

I found that hilarious!

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/53 "2018-04-04T02:27:37Z")

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_Woman Is Nigger Of The World_ - John Lennon

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/54 "2018-04-04T13:20:50Z")

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The Zombies’s Tell Her No. “Don’t hurt me now cause her love belongs to me.”

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/55 "2018-04-04T13:43:22Z")

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I dunno, I’d think there’s a difference between ‘non-PC’ and ‘hyperbolic for effect’.

‘Woman is the Nigger of the World’ is using an offensive term to make a point in a jarring way. Just the use of the term isn’t non-PC. Ditto for a lot of the other cited pieces. Such could be done now just as easily to make the same point.

However, I’d term the non-PC songs, “Stuff they’d NEVER get away with today.”

My favorite is Julie Brown’s "Homecoming Queen’s Got A Gun’ from about 1984(?). The song is a comedic send up of a school shooting in which the narrator - a teen girl - sees her best friend commit a shooting at their homecoming parade. She’s shocked and concerned about being embarrassed and occasionally less-than-concerned about the casualties. A math teacher is killed and it’s sad but also a relief because she’ll get to avoid a test. When the glee club is killed her only remark is, ‘No big loss’.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/56 "2018-04-04T14:06:10Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I dunno, I’d think there’s a difference between ‘non-PC’ and ‘hyperbolic for effect’…
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> Just the use of the term isn’t non-PC. Ditto for a lot of the other cited pieces.

I agree. _Superman_ is not intended to be hyperbolic. It’s using a racial stereotype to be funny. _Jump Jim Crow_ uses racial terms and stereotypes to condemn those terms ant stereotypes, but if you’re not paying attention you may miss the point. _Belsen Was A Gas_ (for example) is intended to be offensive.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/57 "2018-04-04T15:30:40Z")

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I’ve always been dumbfounded by **Roger Waters - Watching TV**. I think it’s somehow meant as a touching profound tribute or memorial, but man the tone-deafness of the song is unreal, especially when coming from a progressive social consciousness musician.

“She had perfect breasts  
She had high hopes  
She had almond eyes  
She had yellow thighs”

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/58 "2018-04-04T17:27:06Z")

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There’s a Charlie Daniels song that I’m always shocked when it comes up on a random Pandora country station.  
Just a perfect example of casual southern racism. Not googling this line to find the song title…  
“We worked like n\_\_\_\_\_ in the fields”

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/59 "2018-04-05T19:06:14Z")

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A joke song, but “Stuart” by The Dead Milkmen:

> [@](#):
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> Now, Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large US city,  
> There’s a big underground homosexual population. Des Moines, Iowa,  
> For an example. Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart.  
> You can’t build on it; you can’t grow anything in it. The government  
> Says it’s due to poor farming. But I know what’s really going on,  
> Stuart. I know it’s the queers. They’re in it with the aliens.  
> They’re building landing strips for gay Martians, I swear to  
> God.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/60 "2018-04-06T20:05:44Z")

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Well…you could go with “The Whistling Coon”, “All Coons Look Alike To Me”, or “Every Race Has A Flag But The Coon”. Take your pick. If you seek them out, be aware that the tunes are pretty catchy. As your jaw is dropping at how sickening these songs are, you should know that there was a craze for these kinds of songs, and that they got thrown in the mix with ragtime music during the era and ragtime probably would never have caught on if it hadn’t been for this crap. It was a weird era…

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-pc-songs/472820/61 "2018-04-13T16:57:20Z")

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> [@Labdad](#):
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> Have a look at the lyrics to [“If That Ain’t Country”](http://www.davidallancoe.com/members/lyrics/ifthat.htm) by David Allen Coe!

Heh… I came in here to add “Just about any song from David Allen Coe.”

To quote from this [NYT article](https://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/04/arts/songwriter-s-racist-songs-from-1980-s-haunt-him.html):  
_“In the early 80’s the outlaw country singer David Allan Coe released very small quantities of two underground albums of songs that are among the most racist, misogynist, homophobic and obscene songs recorded by a popular songwriter.”_

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