# Non-Racist Trump voters wondering why they're getting shit about racism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963 "2016-11-14T14:57:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/41 "2016-11-16T19:01:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There are a lot more than three of those anecdotes out there. I have friends that have reported similar things happening to them. And a similar spike in hate crimes happened immediately following the Brexit vote in the UK. > > But I suppose it’s easier to believe that all those people are lying than to accept that this is the world we live in now. And surely you and the OP must realize there are a lot more than three anecdotes of left wingers behaving badly/violently as a result of Trump being elected. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/42 "2016-11-16T19:33:34Z")
Relevant articles… > **[There’s No Such Thing as a Good Trump Voter](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/11/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-good-trump-voter.html)** > > Donald Trump ran a campaign of racist demagoguery against Muslim Americans, Hispanic immigrants, and black protesters. He indulged the worst instincts... > [@](#): > > Whether Trump’s election reveals an “inherent malice” in his voters is irrelevant. What is relevant are the practical outcomes of a Trump presidency. Trump campaigned on state repression of disfavored minorities. He gives every sign that he plans to deliver that repression. This will mean disadvantage, immiseration, and violence for real people, people whose “inner pain and fear” were not reckoned worthy of many-thousand-word magazine feature stories. If you voted for Trump, you voted for this, regardless of what you believe about the groups in question. That you have black friends or Latino colleagues, that you think yourself to be tolerant and decent, doesn’t change the fact that you voted for racist policy that may affect, change, or harm their lives. And on that score, your frustration at being labeled a racist doesn’t justify or mitigate the moral weight of your political choice. > > In the same way that the election-year demand for empathy toward Trump supporters obscured the consequences of Trump’s support for his targets, this demand for empathy does the same. It’s worse, in fact. In the wake of Trump’s win, the United States was hit with a wave of racist threats, agitation, harassment, and violence, following a year in which hate crimes against Muslim Americans and others reached historic highs. With Trump in office, millions of Americans face the prospect of a federal government that is hostile to their presence in this country, and which views them as an intrusion, even if they are citizens. Even if they’ve lived their entire lives as Americans. > > To face those facts and then demand empathy for the people who made them a reality—who backed racist demagoguery, whatever their reasons—is to declare Trump’s victims less worthy of attention than his enablers. **To insist Trump’s backers are good people is to treat their inner lives with more weight than the actual lives on the line under a Trump administration. At best, it’s myopic and solipsistic. At worst, it’s morally grotesque**. [http://moviebob.blogspot.de/2016/11/heres-what-i-dont-get.html#more](http://moviebob.blogspot.de/2016/11/heres-what-i-dont-get.html#more) > [@](#): > > Here’s the thing: Regardless of whether Trump follows through on anything he’s proposed, he proposed it and “Flyover Country” voted for him. They voted for taking marriage rights away from gays. They voted for mass-deportation of immigrants. They voted for a Muslim ban. They voted for the wall. They voted for “gay conversion therapy” (that one’s on Pence - who is, explicitly or implicitly, your actual President in terms of the work. Just watch.) They voted for abortion restrictions. They voted for breaking bread with Putin. They voted for white nationalism. They voted for isolationism. They voted for America to back out of NATO. They voted to tank the economy by trying to force an unviable manufacturing-sector revival that can’t be accomplished and an “America first” trade policy that corporations will weasel out of easily while passing any actual costs onto consumers. > > Even if that wasn’t why they voted for him (or why they THOUGHT they voted for him) …they knew it about it and voted anyway. Which can only means two things: They wanted to inflict deliberate harm on their fellow countrymen, or they wanted something else and figured that getting it was worth inflicting that same deliberate harm. **No matter what’s to be gained… how can ANYONE from the “harmed” part of that equation be reasonably asked to build bridges and heal rifts? How do you get there?** > > Oh, I can imagine the Democrat PARTY getting there: Gearing up a gaggle of their best “relatable white guy” stable (“On Bernie! On Biden! On Kaine and O’Malley!”) and “Blue Dog” Senate candidates and dispatching them to the rusted-out hinterlands on the pretext of “Okay, when the Union lunchpail vote was a thing, it was OUR thing - let’s get it back!” Sure. That’s probably Strategy #1 for the 2018 midterms. **What I can’t imagine is the ACTUAL power-base coalition of 21st Century liberalism - Blue State/Blue State-aspirant Millennials, LGBTQ people, people of color, immigrants, religious and cultural minorities, women, people with disabilities, etc - going along with it. Why should they? How can that be reasonably expected of them**? The whole articles are both worth a read, and both pretty firmly encapsulate my thoughts. These guys voted for someone who is going to hurt my friends in very explicit, meaningful ways. They _knew_ he was going to do that. He _advertised_ that he was going to do that. And they voted for him anyways, because… Reasons. And _we’re_ supposed to be the ones to reach out a fig leaf? _What?!_ ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/43 "2016-11-16T21:00:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Bullshit[sup]2[/sup]. The urban legend (crafted and nurtured over the course of a quarter of a century) about Hillary is the reason the nation lost. Yeah, urban legends about her giving speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars to Wall Street that she wouldn’t reveal. But the ones we know about are pretty damaging to a candidate who claims she can clean up wall street, stop the flow of cheap labor into the country and the flow of jobs out of the country. Urban legends about her erasing emails while they were under subpoena. Urban legends about how the DNC was in the bag for her and when they fired Debiie Wasserman Schultz, she officially became part of the Clinton campaign. Urban legends about how the media was feeding her debate questions ahead of time. Urban legends about what a nasty person she is. These urban legends are not myths. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/44 "2016-11-16T22:25:11Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > It’s an analogy, dude. If Hitler gives you angina, insert another demagogue. > > Or better yet, pretend its a student council election and the winner is the biggest bully in the school. While those who consider themselves in the in-crowd might not care all that much about electing a bully just as long as Biff Jr carries out his promise to put Sprite in the water fountains, those who disagree with them are perfectly justified in seeing them as bully enablers and de facto assholes. As well as stupid as fuck to believe a bully like that actually carries out promises. > > The harm in portraying this kind of single-issue self-interest as valid and ethically in the clear is that it invites corruption. Invoking Hitler is not just an analogy, by Godwin! And your subsequent “analogy” is insufficiently analogous to be of use. Trump convinced a large number of people that by engaging in protectionism and building a wall and something-something-because-Trump, he would get them their jobs back. And you want to tell these people that voting for him out of self-interest (given that they bought this) is something they should have rejected out of hand as unacceptable, and that the only moral choice was to vote against their self interest, and for a candidate they apparently had grave reservations about. They disagreed and exercised their right to vote the way they wanted to. Because for them it wasn’t between a bully and a saint, it was between two candidates with warts, only one of which represented change and was promising jobs. Now, you can argue that they are wrong about Hillary’s warts, and are grossly underestimating Trump’s. And that for acting on this they are morally deficient and worthy of contempt. You can, but it does nothing. In examining why Trump won, saying his base is racist, or shouldn’t have voted for him gets you exactly zero more votes next go-around, because it doesn’t get you anything you can do different next time to get those vote(r)s. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/45 "2016-11-17T00:28:21Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > Now, you can argue that they are wrong about Hillary’s warts, and are grossly underestimating Trump’s. And that for acting on this they are morally deficient and worthy of contempt. You can, but it does nothing. In examining why Trump won, saying his base is racist, or shouldn’t have voted for him gets you exactly zero more votes next go-around, because it doesn’t get you anything you can do different next time to get those vote(r)s. Lol. It doesn’t work like that. People don’t change their minds because someone coddles them into thinking their actions are immune from rebuke. People don’t change their minds because someone downplays the harm their choice has caused to others. It’s like expecting a crack head to put down the pipe but refusing to be frank and honest with him at the intervention. Speaking truthfully is the only way you get through to people But guess what? Even if the truth didn’t change their minds, that doesn’t mean we should shy away from it! Because I guarantee if the Democratic Party becomes known as the party of self-flagellating weaklings who would rather placate and woo and cajole conservatives than be the voice for the minorities antagonized by these conservatives, the same thing that happened this election will happen next time. Minorities will stay home or find their voice elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/46 "2016-11-17T00:35:27Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > No, I’m blaming Hillary for losing. I’m blaming the rest of the Democrats for acceding to her wish to run virtually unopposed. > > Biden being the main culprit. So maybe we should blame Biden for Trump. Biden doesn’t owe you anything, especially he doesn’t owe anyone to spend years of his life doing something he doesn’t have the heart for (i.e. running for and then serving as president). Who else wanted to run as a Democrat this year, who held back in favor of Hillary’s “turn?” Not a whisper from anywhere. Your bitterness is making you irrational. Bitterness is only the third stage of election grief. Time for you to move on to numbness, and then to determination (that’s where you put some actual skin in the game by helping to re-build the Democratic party from the ground up so that it can take back it’s rightful place as the majority party in the House). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/47 "2016-11-17T01:51:37Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > Except, of course, Trump isn’t Hitler. Not even early, democratically elected Hitler. Damn right, Hitler won a medal for bravery in the army. Trump couldn’t be spurred to action. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/48 "2016-11-17T02:10:57Z")
Also, Trump is a piss-poor dancer. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/49 "2016-11-17T02:34:17Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > We shouldn’t have reflexively jumped down the throats of everyone who said “All Lives Matter”. Some of them were agreeing with us, and we alienated them over an issue of semantics. No, they weren’t. Because there’s literally no reason to say it unless you are opposing Black Lives Matter. It only exists as a response to that. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t have been talked into supporting it if they understood it. But they were in fact opposing it. Not that anti-BLM sentiment really had anything to do with this election. Again, Clinton lost because fewer Democrats voted for her. Trump won even though fewer Republicans voted for him. No one didn’t vote Clinton because of BLM. (And, yes, I will eventually get to the point of not paying attention to politics directly. But it’s hard right now, when it’s all everyone is talking about!) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/50 "2016-11-17T03:34:56Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yeah, urban legends about her giving speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars to Wall Street that she wouldn’t reveal. But the ones we know about are pretty damaging to a candidate who claims she can clean up wall street, stop the flow of cheap labor into the country and the flow of jobs out of the country. > > Urban legends about her erasing emails while they were under subpoena. > > Urban legends about how the DNC was in the bag for her and when they fired Debiie Wasserman Schultz, she officially became part of the Clinton campaign. > > Urban legends about how the media was feeding her debate questions ahead of time. > > Urban legends about what a nasty person she is. > > These urban legends are not myths. The urban legend that, even cumulatively, the seriousness of those was enough to prevent her from being an excellent President who was prepared to serve the nation well. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/51 "2016-11-17T07:30:49Z")
I’d add all the other -ists to this as well, frankly. I happen to think that minorities, women, gay people, transgender people, etc. deserve all government and social protections as anyone else. And I’m supposed to think that people who respond, “no, they don’t” are NOT bigots, and that I should care about their hurt feelings when people are literally dying because of that opinion. No one has yet explained to me how that is a reasonable thing to demand, ESPECIALLY to those who belong to said demographics who feel personally attacked at best, and being killed at worst. “Well, you won’t convince them if you’re mean to them.” _mind boggling_ ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/52 "2016-11-17T07:59:19Z")
I think the best explanation for why Trump voters must cop criticism is from John Scalzi, [The Cinemax Theory of Racism](http://whatever.scalzi.com/2016/11/10/the-cinemax-theory-of-racism/). Quoting a snippet wouldn’t do the piece justice. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/53 "2016-11-17T09:03:03Z")
I promise to not call a Trump voter racist if he or she will admit to being merely stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/54 "2016-11-17T09:10:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I promise to not call a Trump voter racist if he or she will admit to being merely stupid. Well, that’s pretty much what defenders of the Republicans have been saying for decades, “they don’t\* really know \*what they are doing”. The Democrats have for decades been trying to pretend that the Right doesn’t \*really \*understand what it’s doing, and if everyone just sucks up enough to the Right it’ll suddenly realize it’s in the wrong and start acting nice. But they\* do\* know, and\* aren’t\* stupid. Just evil. And now the fecklessness of the Democrats has given the worst people in America pretty much total power. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/55 "2016-11-17T09:57:31Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I rather suspect I\* am going to disappoint your friend. > > Whenever _ **I** _ find that a politician is putting forth a racist or sexist position, sure, I will reject it. All you are being asked to do is reject the racism or sexism that YOU find. Direct quote, with my bolding added: > [@](#): > > Whenever **you** find that the RNC, the President, the VP, or any other congress-critter or other politician is putting forth a racist or sexist position, do the entire country a favor, and SPEAK UP and say “NO, WE REJECT THAT.” Of course, if you never manage to see any racism/sexism even when it is right in front of you, then yes, you will disappoint. How are you feeling about Steve Bannon’s appointment, if I may ask? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/56 "2016-11-17T10:01:20Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > What we shouldn’t have done is nominated Hillary just because she insisted it was her turn. > > Biden would have beaten Trump. Very little doubt in my mind. Biden wasn’t running. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Biden being the main culprit. So maybe we should blame Biden for Trump. Maybe we should blame you for an astoundingly insensitive jerkish remark. I still remember Biden saying, quietly and eloquently, that he didn’t feel he could run. Everyone understood why. No one could possibly have imagined how events would play out. If you’re looking for somebody to blame, uninformed racist ignoramuses is a good start. Misogynists who can’t stand ambitious women gives you another cohort to blame. And ideologically blinded diehard Republicans who would elect a feces-throwing cebus monkey as their president as long as it had an “R” after its name. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/57 "2016-11-17T10:15:26Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > BLM should’ve started out as ALM, then the racially motivated sectors of the right wouldn’t have had that easy pivot to get the non-racists on their side against BLM. On the one hand you might be right. On the other, “If only the victims of institutional racism had been a bit nicer, people might have started caring about their feelings” is a rather depressing thought. > [@](#): > > Next conspiracy out of the far left? The Clintons had Beau killed to keep Biden out of the race. Wouldn’t surprise me after this campaign season. > [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > It’s an analogy, dude. If Hitler gives you angina, insert another demagogue. Next up on Straight Dope Theatre: _The Angina Demagogues_ > [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > And surely you and the OP must realize there are a lot more than three anecdotes of left wingers behaving badly/violently as a result of Trump being elected. Maybe if only the bigots had been a bit less bigoted people might have started caring about their feelings. I’m not condoning violence and property damage at all, but the two sides are not equivalent here. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yeah, urban legends about her giving speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars to Wall Street that she wouldn’t reveal. Why should she have? Private speaking engagements are a product that all high profile politicians sell for stupid amounts of money. Demanding that she release her speeches is like demanding that Herman Cain give everyone free pizzas. > [@](#): > > Urban legends about what a nasty person she is. Compared to whom? The guy still holding a grudge over the “short fingers” remark decades later? And on the point about lack of transparency, Trump not only never released his tax returns but constantly lied about the reasons why. On pretty much every metric that Clinton scores poorly on, Trump is worse. But no, those tiny nuggets are not the urban legends we’re talking about. We’re talking urban legends like the vast and groundless bullshit around Benghazi, the one about how the Clinton Foundation “kept 90% of the money (which somehow the Clintons kept”, and one that Clinton deliberately used a private email account to avoid scrutiny rather than for personal convenience like her predecessors. Your attempts to pick sweetcorn out of a pile of turds doesn’t change the fact that the lies were the overwhelming narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/58 "2016-11-17T10:55:34Z")
Frankly, claiming to not be a racist after having voted for Trump is like claiming to not be a rapist because all you did is hold her down while all the _other_ guys raped her. A distinction without a practical difference. A vote for Trump was a vote for racism. Period. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/59 "2016-11-17T11:16:23Z")
Why, that’s tantamount to demanding personal responsibility. (As opposed to merely using the phrase for personal political benefit as a talking point buzzword.) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963/60 "2016-11-17T11:24:50Z")
Hint for innocent doe-eyed Trump voters: A vote for the man who promised a total and complete ban on all Muslims entering the country, was a vote for racism. What’s that? “Muslim” means religion, not race? Don’t let your obfuscation and denial cloud your vision. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-racist-trump-voters-wondering-why-theyre-getting-shit-about-racism/771963.md?page=4)