# Non-smokers: How rampant  and how deep is the smoker hate?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 27, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317 "2012-11-27T22:20:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/362 "2018-11-05T17:17:45Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It is for that Doctor. Can he be arrested for using it properly?

Yes, indeed he can. If he neglects to keep accurate records he can be arrested.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/363 "2018-11-05T17:45:35Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Yes, indeed he can. If he neglects to keep accurate records he can be arrested.

Then, he is not using it properly and legally.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/364 "2018-11-05T18:47:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Then, he is not using it properly and legally.

You moved the goalposts, dude!

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It is for that Doctor. Can he be arrested for using it properly?

And I showed that he could use the drug properly and still be arrested. It’s use has nothing to do with post-use record keeping.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/365 "2018-11-05T18:55:37Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> You moved the goalposts, dude!
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> And I showed that he could use the drug properly and still be arrested. It’s use has nothing to do with post-use record keeping.

“_A product, when used legally- is always legal._”

If he uses the drug legally, then he cant be arrested. If he neglects to keep proper records, he is not using it legally.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/366 "2018-11-05T19:08:00Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> “_A product, when used legally- is always legal._”
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> If he uses the drug legally, then he cant be arrested. If he neglects to keep proper records, he is not using it legally.

Maybe a cocaine using physician could chime in. The record keeping is an administrative function that he could assign to an employee.

ETA: how ironic . . . You’re blowing smoke. 😉

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/367 "2018-11-06T16:05:21Z")

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Late to the party, but hey.

I certainly don’t hate smokers, but when I find out someone smokes, there’s a certain feeling of disappointment, a realization that they’re one of _those_ people.

This is probably classism on my part to a degree. Practically none of my friends smoke, and no one at work smokes, but when I worked at a call center a few years ago, where most everyone was living hand to mouth, break time was almost universally smoke time. After a while, there’s an aspect of conditioning to it. Someone says they’re going out for a smoke and my heart just kind of sinks. Patronizing as hell, I suppose. I never pretended to be a good person.

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**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-smokers-how-rampant-and-how-deep-is-the-smoker-hate/642317/368 "2018-11-06T16:05:22Z")

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To answer the OP’s question, I don’t hate smokers as much as I hate inconsiderate people, no matter what the vice.

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