# Non-USA national anthems

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 29, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351 "2016-11-29T01:38:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/41 "2016-11-29T18:19:10Z")

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And who would argue against the [Paquadorian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szYUpVI39-0) national anthem?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/42 "2016-11-29T18:26:31Z")

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I cherish a fond but vain hope that my country will finally relinquish Anacreon to his eternal rest, and replace “The Star-Spangled Banner” with that most lovely of American patriotic songs, “America The Beautiful”.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/43 "2016-11-29T18:26:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Ah, so you’re an _international_ spy, then!

I can neither deny nor confirm this. But if I did, I’d have to shoot you. 😃

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/44 "2016-11-29T18:30:24Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> I cherish a fond but vain hope that my country will finally relinquish Anacreon to his eternal rest, and replace “The Star-Spangled Banner” with that most lovely of American patriotic songs, “America The Beautiful”.

I once sang that for some Brits with whom the topic had somehow come up. They laughed uncontrollably and said it was a sappy song girl scouts would probably sing around a campfire.

What could I do? I agreed wholeheartedly with them.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/45 "2016-11-29T18:41:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not bad. Igor Stravinsky had a go at it in 1944, too. Not awful, but a bit odd, IMHO: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1taQl-wOmo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1taQl-wOmo)

Never heard that version before–sounds pretty cool to me. (It’s not in a minor key, though. Not sure if you were saying it is or not.)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/46 "2016-11-29T18:44:31Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> I don’t like it at all. I don’t like the tune, and I don’t like the words.

Then you, sir, are no true Scotsman.

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**Author:** ![Scougs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scougs/32/3158_2.png) [@Scougs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scougs)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/47 "2016-11-29T18:47:24Z")

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I refer to the UK national anthem - which I loathe - as “One entity I don’t believe in, save another entity I don’t believe in”.

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**Author:** ![ric62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@ric62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ric62)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/48 "2016-11-30T06:29:36Z")

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What prompted this thread was my annoyance at ‘patriots’ who stand, cheer, defend the US national anthem but don’t know there are 3 other verses that never get played or sang. Also, I think it is a horrible song, not appropriate- it was written when there were 18 states, and that a much better anthem would be America The Beautiful. I also realize that changing the anthem would go over like electing a black, female, lesbian, atheist with a lisp for president.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/49 "2016-11-30T06:33:32Z")

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> [@ric62](#):
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> What prompted this thread was my annoyance at ‘patriots’ who stand, cheer, defend the US national anthem but don’t know there are 3 other verses that never get played or **sang**.

Sung.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/50 "2016-11-30T14:04:21Z")

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I like the Chinese anthem, which has a rather jaunty air to it: [China (2012 / 2016) (Olympic Version / Versión Olímpica) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95-t_Drbpi8)

And here’s the anthem of the United Federation of Planets, first performed on _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_: [United Federation of Planets / Federación Unida de Planetas (\*Fictitious state/Estado ficticio) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APowgLet5Sc)

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**Author:** ![Galwegian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galwegian/32/3426_2.png) [@Galwegian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galwegian)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/51 "2016-11-30T14:31:29Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Northern Ireland is a fraught case, perhaps: they play as a separate international team for soccer, but a united Ireland team for rugby - I don’t know what the soccer team do, but the rugby team (even those from the North) line up under the national anthem of the Republic.

Actually, they don’t. They line up for [_Ireland’s Call_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland's_Call), that was specifically commissioned to be played instead of either the British or Irish national anthems, apart from international matches in the Republic when both _Ireland’s Call_ and the Irish national anthem are played.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/52 "2016-11-30T14:43:04Z")

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And here it is being sung: [Passionate Ireland's Call Anthem - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2rRzvsZJfM)

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/53 "2016-11-30T21:53:55Z")

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For those with memories stretching back to Goon Shows will recall the episode “The Sleeping Prince” which featured the National Anthem of the Pacific Republic of [Yukkabukkoo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIMzkuNZwMc). (Milligan’s Symphony no 1 in G). .

New Zealand has a nice anthem (God Defend New Zealand) which is particularly poignant as, not having a army, navy or air force, God is their first line of national defence, hence the necessity of following it with the haka.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/54 "2016-11-30T23:08:30Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> New Zealand has a nice anthem (God Defend New Zealand) which is particularly poignant as, not having a army, navy or air force, God is their first line of national defence, hence the necessity of following it with the haka.

Technically, New Zealand has _two_ national anthems - God Save The Queen is the other one.

What’s interesting is God Defend New Zealand now often seems to be sung in English _and_ Maori; when I was in school only the English version was sung.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/55 "2016-12-02T07:58:08Z")

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This question is becoming [a hot issue in an increasingly nationalistic atmosphere in India](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/30/indian-court-orders-cinemas-to-play-national-anthem-before-films)

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/56 "2016-12-02T08:06:42Z")

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Let’s not forget the [national anthem of Molvania](http://www.molvania.com.au/molvania/national.html)

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**Author:** ![Noel\_Prosequi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b19c9b/32.png) [@Noel\_Prosequi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noel_Prosequi)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-usa-national-anthems/773351/57 "2016-12-06T09:45:06Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> For those with memories stretching back to Goon Shows will recall the episode “The Sleeping Prince” which featured the National Anthem of the Pacific Republic of [Yukkabukkoo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIMzkuNZwMc). (Milligan’s Symphony no 1 in G). .
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> New Zealand has a nice anthem (God Defend New Zealand) which is particularly poignant as, not having a army, navy or air force, God is their first line of national defence, hence the necessity of following it with the haka.

I always liked the version in which the classic funeral march is set to the words “God Loves New Zealand, He gave us boiling mud”. (A little tiresome [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVcUF5XduEk), but you get the idea).

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