# Non women-hating reasons for incest/rape exception to abortion rules? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 29, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983 "2012-08-29T00:32:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![stevenova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@stevenova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stevenova)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983/141 "2012-09-03T00:31:40Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > I must disagree. Each time you engage in hetero sexual intercourse, there’s a risk of pregnancy. It’s not “thrust upon you” to have sex, and it’s not exactly a secret that sex can result in pregnancy even if you took reasonnable steps to reduce this risk. > > tl;dr: Babies aren’t brought in by storks. that whole “thrust upon them” thing is like when I hear sometimes women say “I found myself pregnant”. That language is used to absolve someone from responsibility for their actions. Unless someone has been living under a rock for a long time, they realize that pregnancy is a possibility and consequence of having sex. ---
**Author:** ![stevenova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@stevenova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stevenova)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983/142 "2012-09-03T00:33:58Z")
> [@Carmady](#): > > Pro-choice and pro-life are positions defined by what you think the laws should be. You can be strongly pro-choice while believing abortion is morally wrong, and many people fall in that category. > > Theoretically you could also be pro-life while believing abortion was not morally wrong, for example in a society where the population was dwindling to nothing and babies were needed to sustain it. > > From this post, you are at the very least pro-choice on abortions through week 10, and have not explicitly stated what you think the law should be after that. Do you think it could be possible to use abortion as a form of birth control (ie, not done to save the life of the mother, not rape) and be moral? Seems to me nothing could be more immoral than killing your own child because it’s inconvenient. Even if you were an ax murderer, at least your victims have a chance to escape, unlike one’s own child. ---
**Author:** ![getitrite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@getitrite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/getitrite)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983/143 "2012-09-03T02:04:30Z")
There is a part of this discussion that I feel is being tip toed around, when does this life start ? The egg and zygote get together, sometimes days after coitus. Then the cells start to divide, similar to a cancer at first, or a mole, or a wart. If they are all types of life then any man who has ever had that annoying mole taken off his neck is committing murder, yes or no ? If this is a no then the woman until the end of about 40 days is not either. Later then their should be a different discussion altogether. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983/144 "2012-09-03T02:06:58Z")
> [@getitrite](#): > > There is a part of this discussion that I feel is being tip toed around, when does this life start ? The egg and zygote get together, sometimes days after coitus. Then the cells start to divide, similar to a cancer at first, or a mole, or a wart. If they are all types of life then any man who has ever had that annoying mole taken off his neck is committing murder, yes or no ? If this is a no then the woman until the end of about 40 days is not either. Later then their should be a different discussion altogether. I don’t feel it’s a particularly important question, no. But I am curious - why 40 days? ---
**Author:** ![getitrite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@getitrite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/getitrite)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983/145 "2012-09-03T03:08:57Z")
The length of this explination is best left to a link > **[Prenatal development](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development)** > > Prenatal development (from Latin natalis 'relating to birth') includes the development of the embryo and of the fetus during a viviparous animal's gestation. Prenatal development starts with fertilization, in the germinal stage of embryonic development, and continues in fetal development until birth. > In human pregnancy, prenatal development is also called antenatal development. The development of the human embryo follows fertilization, and continues as fetal development. By the end of the tent... but until the 6th week there is no heart to beat, no kidneys, no lungs, there is nothing that could be said to make it anything other than a mass of cells, yes the blue print is there but the building hasn’t even gotten the ground broke so to speak, and outside toxins can do fatal things to it. It would be called a nevus or wart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/non-women-hating-reasons-for-incest-rape-exception-to-abortion-rules/632983.md?page=7)