# nongoog is either a troll or an imbecile **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363 "2007-06-17T15:26:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/181 "2007-06-21T11:09:38Z")
**shrug** Activity had died down. There was some desultory BSing about **omegaman** (kudos to him, BTW, for managing to make this into another thread about “what’s his freaking trip [sic]?”), and a couple of people had managed to calm down and offer some genuine advice to **nongoog** – the thread had pretty well run its course, there wasn’t a whole lot to add. Then **catsix** came stomping in in her Doc Martens of righteousness and said what had already been said on the first page of the thread, so going back to a point in the discussion that had passed a day or two earlier, and adding nothing but the word “twat.” And I read what she said and thought “what the fuck,” and rather than keeping my thoughts to myself, I posted them. Isn’t that what we do in the Pit? **shrug** ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/182 "2007-06-21T13:11:59Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] You bring the wood, I’m sure someone else can bring the matches and other necessary accoutrements. A black pointy hat to jam down on her head would perhaps complete the picture. Or you and others could perhaps just gather round in a big mob and kick \*\*nongoog \*\* to death. You could use great big hyperbolic boots. See if you can’t do it with as much justice as a mob in Texas. [/QUOTE] Sure! Or, she could write a profane message on an anonymous Internet message board, without any suggestion or threat of physical violence, expressing her opinion of the person in question. Which is basically the same thing, right? Or, sarcasm free: when you write a post equating calling someone a “twat” on the Internet with burning them alive or kicking them to death, you sort of kind of lose your right to use the word _hyperbolic_ to apply to anyone but yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/183 "2007-06-21T14:07:44Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Sure! Or, she could write a profane message on an anonymous Internet message board, without any suggestion or threat of physical violence, expressing her opinion of the person in question. Which is basically the same thing, right? [/quote] She did not merely express an opinion. She made a whole lot of illogical shit up, and attributed it to **nongoog**. In my experience, people don’t do that to just anyone, in any circumstance. They do it when they’ve got a victim down on the mat, and feel that they can get away with any shit they want because (they hope) the crowd is sufficiently behind them that it won’t call them on it. > [@](#): > > Or, sarcasm free: when you write a post equating calling someone a “twat” on the Internet with burning them alive or kicking them to death, you sort of kind of lose your right to use the word _hyperbolic_ to apply to anyone but yourself. ’ When I write that post, sure. When I write that post. It’s not about calling **nongoog** about a twat. It’s the self righteousness. It’s the exaggeration. It’s the attitude that because **nongoog** has done _some_ stupid unethical shit, she is Fair Game for a bullying pileon up to and including illogically attributing unevidenced acts and attitudes to her. It’s also not about violence. It’s about the witchhunt, not the witchburning. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/184 "2007-06-21T15:07:28Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] **shrug** Activity had died down. There was some desultory BSing about **omegaman** (kudos to him, BTW, for managing to make this into another thread about “what’s his freaking trip [sic]?”), and a couple of people had managed to calm down and offer some genuine advice to **nongoog** – the thread had pretty well run its course, there wasn’t a whole lot to add. Then **catsix** came stomping in in her Doc Martens of righteousness and said what had already been said on the first page of the thread, so going back to a point in the discussion that had passed a day or two earlier, and adding nothing but the word “twat.” And I read what she said and thought “what the fuck,” and rather than keeping my thoughts to myself, I posted them. Isn’t that what we do in the Pit? **shrug** [/QUOTE] I agree with this. The level of anger at **nongoog** did not support **catsix’s** vitriolic post at this point in the thread. We were past the outraged anger and well into low-key grumbling. Sorry you were still on “outrage,” **catsix** , but you missed your window of opportunity. You snooze, you lose. Now, can we get back to talking about Omegaman, about whom every thread must be about, apparently? ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/185 "2007-06-21T15:17:21Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] It’s not about calling **nongoog** about a twat. It’s the self righteousness. It’s the exaggeration. It’s the attitude that because **nongoog** has done _some_ stupid unethical shit, she is Fair Game for a bullying pileon up to and including illogically attributing unevidenced acts and attitudes to her. [/QUOTE] Anyone that hasn’t done some stupid, unethical and selfish shit in their life should go create a thread in MPSIMS and post over in it so the rest of us can identify you and either nominate you for sainthood or avoid you at all costs. Maybe we can create a tag “charter member,” “member,” “SDSAB” and “Holier Than Thou.” Edited to add: And a tag just for Omegaman, since this thread is about him. ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/186 "2007-06-21T15:25:14Z")
There has been a lot of anger lately towards women who don’t take their own on others marriage vows seriously. To help our righteous anger here are some scarlet As. A A A A ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/187 "2007-06-21T22:50:22Z")
[QUOTE=Dangerosa] Anyone that hasn’t done some stupid, unethical and selfish shit in their life should go create a thread in MPSIMS and post over in it so the rest of us can identify you and either nominate you for sainthood or avoid you at all costs. Maybe we can create a tag “charter member,” “member,” “SDSAB” and “Holier Than Thou.” [/QUOTE] Precisely. The difference in attitude between your critical but helpful and understanding posts and **catsix’s** vicious bile is a lesson to us all. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/188 "2007-06-22T02:11:57Z")
[QUOTE=gazpacho] There has been a lot of anger lately towards women who don’t take their own on others marriage vows seriously. To help our righteous anger here are some scarlet As. A A A A [/QUOTE] You forgot a gender. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/189 "2007-06-22T02:18:37Z")
Everyone knows that A’s are feminine. A little butch maybe, but still feminine. Those B’s, though - totally masculine. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/190 "2007-06-22T02:47:32Z")
[QUOTE=Chimera] Why, the only thing worse than a Threadshitter is a Fencesitter. Get the rope boys, we’re going after **Heffalump and Roo** next! 😉 [/QUOTE] Based on some of the comments I’ve seen here, I’m likely to be both. So. . . .bring it on!! 😛 ETA: I was just thinking that Threadshitter would make a great screen name. > [@featherlou](#): > > We were past the outraged anger and well into low-key grumbling. Sorry you were still on “outrage,” catsix, but you missed your window of opportunity. You snooze, you lose. I hope I am being whooshed here. You’re kidding, right? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/191 "2007-06-22T03:00:50Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] **shrug** Activity had died down. There was some desultory BSing about **omegaman** (kudos to him, BTW, for managing to make this into another thread about “what’s his freaking trip [sic]?”), and a couple of people had managed to calm down and offer some genuine advice to **nongoog** – the thread had pretty well run its course, there wasn’t a whole lot to add. Then **catsix** came stomping in in her Doc Martens of righteousness and said what had already been said on the first page of the thread, so going back to a point in the discussion that had passed a day or two earlier, and adding nothing but the word “twat.” Bolding mine: **And I read what she said and thought “what the fuck,” and rather than keeping my thoughts to myself, I posted them. Isn’t that what we do in the Pit?** **shrug** [/QUOTE] Well, rather than keeping her thoughts to herself, **catsix** posted them. That’s what we do in the Pit. What the fuck. hypocritical **shrug** ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/192 "2007-06-22T03:02:09Z")
Sorry. B’s look like boobs. Totally female. C’s . . . nope, female, too. D’s? Maybe. They look kinda pregnant, though. E’s, now. Definitely male. Also F’s. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/193 "2007-06-22T03:03:24Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] Precisely. The difference in attitude between your critical but helpful and understanding posts and **catsix’s** vicious bile is a lesson to us all. [/QUOTE] Oh please. I thought “helpful and understanding” posts belonged in MPSIMS. Unless you want the Pit to break out into a rousing chorus of “raindrops on roses, and whiskers on kittens.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/194 "2007-06-22T03:07:01Z")
[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo] \I hope I am being whooshed here. You’re kidding, right? [/QUOTE] Nope, I wasn’t kidding. Threads have a flow to them; this one was in the wind-up phase where all the original steam had been blown off already. Of course anyone can come in and post anything they want at any time that the thread has not gone into zombie status, but most of us realize when a thread has moved on and don’t address things from too far in the past. Why did you think I was kidding? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/195 "2007-06-22T03:09:15Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Oh please. I thought “helpful and understanding” posts belonged in MPSIMS. Unless you want the Pit to break out into a rousing chorus of “raindrops on roses, and whiskers on kittens.” [/QUOTE] Or holding hands around the fire and singing Kumbaya… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/196 "2007-06-22T03:10:10Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Unless you want the Pit to break out into a rousing chorus of “raindrops on roses, and whiskers on kittens.” [/QUOTE] Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens! Ooh, that was fun. Can we do Kumbayah next? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/197 "2007-06-22T03:13:03Z")
beat you dude… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/198 "2007-06-22T03:15:20Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] beat you dude… 😛 [/QUOTE] Yeah, I’ve been reading the Registration Agreement to see if I can warn you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/199 "2007-06-22T03:29:23Z")
Well, to be fair **Frank** , I’m sure you were out moderating the pasture while we were gathering around the fire getting ready to sing, so one minute late ain’t bad. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/200 "2007-06-22T03:34:24Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] Well, to be fair **Frank** , I’m sure you were out moderating the pasture while we were gathering around the fire getting ready to sing, so one minute late ain’t bad. 😉 [/QUOTE] To be honest, I was out googling what was in the next line besides “mittens”, as I figured that “Mumble mumble mumble, mumble mumble mittens!” would have been a bit of a weak effort on my part, and would not have shown team spirit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363.md?page=11)