# nongoog is either a troll or an imbecile **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363 "2007-06-17T15:26:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/101 "2007-06-19T01:55:15Z")
[QUOTE=nongoog] Wow, I’ve been so busy at work and with the boyfriend who never bought me a xmas present that I didn’t even realize I’d inspired a pit thread! [/QUOTE] Wait. Are you saying the BWNBMAXP is still on the go? Is this while also screwing the boss? Heh. This just keeps getting better. Are you trying out a plot for a comedy/farce novel you are writing or what? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/102 "2007-06-19T01:56:35Z")
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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/103 "2007-06-19T02:17:56Z")
Jesus Ms.Rigby, don’t you think you are being a little harsh? You sound like she fucked your husband. If you still think she is a troll then by all means blast away. But if you think she is sincere does she really deserve so much hostility? Lets not forget that she is a very young woman who has apparently been taken advantage of by her male superior in the work place. She seems naive, sure. A little self absorbed, sure. But she is a victim to. She posted this stuff outside the Pit. She claims to be reaching out for advice. If she is making shit up then slam her for that. But slamming her for being young and naive is harsh. I am not saying anything you said was wrong, but it seemed a little hostile from a dissinterested stranger on the internet. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/104 "2007-06-19T02:23:17Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Lets not forget that she is a very young woman who has apparently **been taken advantage of by her male superior in the work place**. She seems naive, sure. A little self absorbed, sure. But **she is a victim to**. [/QUOTE] Um, what? ---
**Author:** ![AngryIrishLass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@AngryIrishLass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngryIrishLass)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/105 "2007-06-19T02:28:19Z")
I think the boss and the scrooge are one and the same. He couldn’t use the card for a present b/c wifey would find out. She’d also find out if a chunk of cash was missing from the ol’ bank account. So yeah, recycling those chocolates was his last resort to get that monkey off his back. What fucking planet do you live on that you don’t think that you are responsible for the divorce??? You start bonking the jerk, wife finds out, bam divorce. Obviously she was just waiting for a good enough alimony inducing bit of stupidity on his part, and in walks you. Grow up, take responsiblity for your actions, and go find another fucking job. Remove yourself from the situation. Because I’ll tell you now, you’ll always be the reason Mr. Jerkface never has enough money, misses his kids, isn’t sleeping well, etc. The D I V O R C E is your relationship noose. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/106 "2007-06-19T02:36:42Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Um, what? [/QUOTE] Come on, you don’t consider an older married man in a position of authority who has sex with a female subordinant to be victimizing her? Did you miss the part about how she had been unemployed for a long time previously and really needed the job? You don’t think that fact played a part in her sleeping with the guy? There have been sexual harrasment laws on the books for years just to prevent people from doing exactly what this guy did. If she looses her job or even gets transfered to please the wife, she will have grounds for a law suit. You can’t fuck your subordinants then fire them, demote them, transfer them or subject them to any negative consequences of your acts. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/107 "2007-06-19T02:45:41Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] There have been sexual harrasment laws on the books for years just to prevent people from doing exactly what this guy did. [/QUOTE] She should have taken advantage of them when this started, then. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/108 "2007-06-19T02:46:11Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Come on, you don’t consider an older married man in a position of authority who has sex with a female subordinant to be victimizing her? Did you miss the part about how she had been unemployed for a long time previously and really needed the job? You don’t think that fact played a part in her sleeping with the guy? [/QUOTE] No, I don’t think that _every_ incident of boss/subordinate sex is by definition victimization or sexual harassment. If she had given _any_ indication that she had felt pressured to get into a relationship with the boss, then I would agree with you. She hasn’t, so I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/109 "2007-06-19T03:10:36Z")
[QUOTE=nongoog] I am not the reason for his divorce; [/QUOTE] BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, I’m sure she’s totally okay with you fucking her husband! ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/110 "2007-06-19T03:12:28Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] No, I don’t think that _every_ incident of boss/subordinate sex is by definition victimization or sexual harassment. If she had given _any_ indication that she had felt pressured to get into a relationship with the boss, then I would agree with you. She hasn’t, so I don’t. [/QUOTE] Oh, don’t worry, that part of the story is coming, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/111 "2007-06-19T03:16:16Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Jesus Ms.Rigby, don’t you think you are being a little harsh? You sound like she fucked your husband. If you still think she is a troll then by all means blast away. But if you think she is sincere does she really deserve so much hostility? Lets not forget that she is a very young woman who has apparently been taken advantage of by her male superior in the work place. She seems naive, sure. A little self absorbed, sure. But she is a victim to. She posted this stuff outside the Pit. She claims to be reaching out for advice. If she is making shit up then slam her for that. But slamming her for being young and naive is harsh. I am not saying anything you said was wrong, but it seemed a little hostile from a dissinterested stranger on the internet. YMMV. [/QUOTE] I don’t think **Eleanor** has been too harsh. **nongoog** is not a victim of anything but her own bad judgement. I don’t think she’s reaching out to us for advice, at least not for the right advice. If her original OP had been, “I did a bad, stupid thing, and I don’t know how to make it right” that probably would have gotten sympathy and help. She came in with an OP indicating that she didn’t think she had done much of anything wrong, and I think that’s what’s bugging people. 24 is not that young, either. I would expect a little more common sense from your average 24 year old than **nongoog** is displaying in her various relationships. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/112 "2007-06-19T03:17:49Z")
[QUOTE=AngryIrishLass] I think the boss and the scrooge are one and the same. [/quote] If they are, then the stories have changed. Boyfriend who wouldn’t give a xmas present was also seeing someone else when **nongoog** and he met, but she claimed that she was a girlfriend, not a wife. And btw, **nongoog** claims that scrooge boyfriend was cheating on his girlfriend with her, so all of you that say that she shouldn’t go with the boss because he’s a cheater and would reveal himself to be a cheater, you haven’t accounted for the cheater scrooge boyfriend. > [@AngryIrishLass](#): > > go find another fucking job. How many jobs are there out there where fucking is involved? ---
**Author:** ![MissGypsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@MissGypsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissGypsy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/113 "2007-06-19T03:34:06Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] 24 is not that young, either. I would expect a little more common sense from your average 24 year old than **nongoog** is displaying in her various relationships. [/QUOTE] Just what I was thinking. When I was 24, I had earned 2 college degrees, got married, and bought my first house. And I did all of that without ever sleeping with a married man, or my boss. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/114 "2007-06-19T03:35:03Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] But she is a victim to. [/QUOTE] Everyone is a fucking victim. :dubious: Pun intended. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/115 "2007-06-19T03:43:50Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] But if you think she is sincere does she really deserve so much hostility? [/QUOTE] She’s a whore, a slut, and a gold digger\*. She deserves all the hostility she’s gotten thus far and then some. \*To be fair, she may not actually be a gold digger. But she sure ain’t messin’ with no broke nigga. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/116 "2007-06-19T03:59:10Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar] She’s a whore, a slut, and a gold digger\*. She deserves all the hostility she’s gotten thus far and then some. \*To be fair, she may not actually be a gold digger. But she sure ain’t messin’ with no broke nigga. [/QUOTE] Let him who is without sin cast the first stone, oh sanctimonious one. I didn’t object to the pileon when it was about trollery, but now it seems like a bunch of self righteous assholes who think there own shit doesn’t stink are hurling vitriol at person who has made some poor choices. Who among us has not? I haven’t followed her postings, maybe there is a pattern I am not aware of, but for pitys sake are we really so fucking judgemental? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/117 "2007-06-19T04:00:40Z")
[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo] …How many jobs are there out there where fucking is involved? [/QUOTE] Lots and lots. She can even start her own business. Very low overhead, mostly condoms, lubricants, and wash cloths. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/118 "2007-06-19T04:04:19Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] but for pitys sake are we really so fucking judgemental? [/QUOTE] Were you absent for the [RSSchen/MizGrand extravaganza](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=415625)? Or was that different somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/119 "2007-06-19T04:07:25Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] Lots and lots. She can even start her own business. Very low overhead, mostly condoms, lubricants, and wash cloths. [/QUOTE] I KNEW I should have clarified that. But specifying jobs where people give fucking away for free seemed so odd. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/120 "2007-06-19T04:11:39Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] I haven’t followed her postings, maybe there is a pattern I am not aware of, but for pitys sake are we really so fucking judgemental? [/QUOTE] Ah, so you profess ignorance, yet presume to preach? There always has to be one of these in every Pit thread. :rolleyes: Is [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8190193&postcount=3) the attitude of some naive ingenue who doesn’t know better? No. It’s a grown-ass woman pleading youth and innocence, yet who doesn’t mind screwing men who she knows are involved with other women, as long as the man is older and wealthier, and she can tell herself she’s better looking than his current partner. She clearly gets off on this, yet expects violins to play for her when it all goes to hell. Not a damsel in distress, in any case. Read up on it or shut up with the scolding, will ya? ETA: anyone wonder if her “stalker” is this guy’s wife, looking for proof of infidelity for the divorce proceedings? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363.md?page=7)