# nongoog is either a troll or an imbecile

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363 "2007-06-17T15:26:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nongoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@nongoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nongoog)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/121 "2007-06-19T04:17:27Z")

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Hey now! I don’t think I ever asked for SYMPATHY, I asked for advice on how to be supportive. I never whined poor me, and I don’t consider myself deserving of sympathy, so people need to stop badgering me for it.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/122 "2007-06-19T04:23:22Z")

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[QUOTE=nongoog]  
And the guilt is driving me crazy. I’m not “la la la”, I’m sick over it. I just spent a horrible long time unemployed. This is a small place. I’m insecure and depressed and him favoring me with attention was irresistable, esp. after the boyfriend who kept treating me like crap.  
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> [@nongoog](#):
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> I never whined poor me, and I don’t consider myself deserving of sympathy, so people need to stop badgering me for it.

These two things don’t go together.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/123 "2007-06-19T04:29:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo]  
These two things don’t go together.  
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Damn, you beat me.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/124 "2007-06-19T04:30:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo]  
These two things don’t go together.  
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hey-she don’t do reality.

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**Author:** ![The\_Blue-Sighted\_Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@The\_Blue-Sighted\_Shadow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Blue-Sighted_Shadow)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/125 "2007-06-19T04:32:29Z")

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Ok, that’s it. Honey, the \*only \*way to be supportive of the man whose marriage \*\*you **wrecked, who is also \*\* your boss** is to leave. Now. Find another job immediately. Get \*away \*from him. Cut off all contact with him. _That’s_ how you can be supportive, that’s how you can best help him, and, not incidentally, yourself. Then figure out why you keep doing stupid shit like this, and learn to take some responsibility for the messes you make, because you won’t have the excuse of being “young” as long as you think.

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**Author:** ![nongoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@nongoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nongoog)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/126 "2007-06-19T04:49:00Z")

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That wasn’t a ploy for sympathy, it was some context so maybe people can try to understand that I’m not some selfish jezebel bent on sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/127 "2007-06-19T04:49:39Z")

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[QUOTE=MissGypsy]  
Just what I was thinking. When I was 24, I had earned 2 college degrees, got married, and bought my first house. And I did all of that without ever sleeping with a married man, or my boss.  
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And you husband didn’t mind not getting any sex? :dubious:

😃

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/128 "2007-06-19T04:50:32Z")

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cite?  
eta: response was to **nongoog**

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Jackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clockwork\_Jackal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clockwork_Jackal)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/129 "2007-06-19T05:36:39Z")

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[QUOTE=nongoog]  
That wasn’t a ploy for sympathy, it was some context so maybe people can try to understand that I’m not some selfish jezebel bent on sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships.  
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Yes, it was. And Yes, you are.

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**Author:** ![AngryIrishLass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@AngryIrishLass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngryIrishLass)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/130 "2007-06-19T05:52:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo]  
How many jobs are there out there where fucking is involved?  
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If there’s one out there, I’m sure she’ll find it.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/131 "2007-06-19T12:51:12Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
But she is a victim to. She posted this stuff outside the Pit. She claims to be reaching out for advice. If she is making shit up then slam her for that. But slamming her for being young and naive is harsh.

I am not saying anything you said was wrong, but it seemed a little hostile from a dissinterested stranger on the internet. YMMV.  
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victim **too**  
**disinterested** stranger

[QUOTE=askeptic]  
I didn’t object to the pileon when it was about trollery, but now it seems like a bunch of self righteous assholes who think there own shit doesn’t stink  
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**their** own

[QUOTE=askeptic]  
Come on, you don’t consider an older married man in a position of authority who has sex with a female subordinant to be victimizing her?  
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female **subordinate**

> [@](#):
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> Sense you seem somewhat coherent now, could you please explaine the bit about seeing my face and dying,

**Since** you seem

**explain** the bit

[Last time](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8683070#post8683070) I tried to make a gentle suggestion, my attempts to be nonconfrontational were taken as patronizing, so I’ll stick to being direct without trying to be mean.

Spellcheck, proofread, or something.

Sailboat

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/132 "2007-06-19T13:17:37Z")

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[QUOTE=nongoog]  
That wasn’t a ploy for sympathy, it was some context so maybe people can try to understand that I’m not some selfish jezebel bent on sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships.  
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How can you not characterize yourself as selfish? And you DID get sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships. On what basis can you deny any of this?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/133 "2007-06-19T13:22:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
And you DID get sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships. On what basis can you deny any of this?  
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Maybe he wasn’t that good.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/134 "2007-06-19T14:10:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Maybe he wasn’t that good.  
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Or maybe she wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/135 "2007-06-19T14:32:27Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
I haven’t followed her postings, maybe there is a pattern I am not aware of, but for pitys sake are we really so fucking judgemental?  
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I don’t know, maybe because she posted it on a public message board and looked for comments? It’s not like we are whispering behind her back in the office. She put it out there. Now she is getting to hear everyone’s opinion.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/136 "2007-06-19T14:56:09Z")

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[QUOTE=nongoog]  
That wasn’t a ploy for sympathy, it was some context so maybe people can try to understand that I’m not some selfish jezebel bent on sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships.  
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You’re not a selfish jezebel bent on sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships?

Well, what kind of a jezebel bent on sexual gratification to the detriment of other people’s relationships are you then?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/137 "2007-06-19T14:56:32Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone, oh sanctimonious one.  
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The day I sleep with someone else’s wife and talk about it on this board in an attempt to get sympathy from strangers for it, feel free to bring this back up. Until then, you can stick your self-righteousness right up your ass. Feel free to turn it sideways first if that turns you on.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/138 "2007-06-19T14:57:56Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
\<snip\>I haven’t followed her postings, maybe there is a pattern I am not aware of, but for pitys sake are we really so fucking judgemental?  
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That’s the whole point of this thread - we have followed her postings, and there is a pattern. She didn’t get her ass handed to her the first couple of times she posted like this, even though right from day one I think she was pinging a lot of people’s bullshit meters.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/139 "2007-06-19T15:02:02Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone, oh sanctimonious one.  
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“Whoa,” said Jesus when the crowd had brought him up to speed. “I didn’t know she’d done all _that_. Shit. Gimme one of those stones. Nah, bigger.”

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nongoog-is-either-a-troll-or-an-imbecile/408363/140 "2007-06-19T15:10:38Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone, oh sanctimonious one.  
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People love to quote this; they tend to forget that after the crowd had dispersed, Jesus told the prostitute, “Go and sin no more.” In other words, “I’ve wiped your slate clean to this point – don’t screw up again.”

**nongoog** , it’s been said many times, in many different ways, but I think it’s true: ANY contact with this man is bad. Period. You do not need to support him through the divorce you helped cause. You do not need to use his help or influence to get another job. You need to get away from him, sever all ties, and close this messed-up chapter of your life for good. Nothing good can come of you staying in touch with him/working with him/“counseling” him. He is bad for you, and you are bad for him.

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