# Noonan is in rare form (commenting on WI and other things) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462 "2012-06-08T03:11:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/1 "2012-06-08T03:11:33Z")
She’s on fire. > **[What's Changed After Wisconsin](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303753904577452793597495290)** > > The Obama administration suddenly looks like a house of cards. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/2 "2012-06-09T01:22:47Z")
I saw this bird today. It was looking at me. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/3 "2012-06-09T01:35:05Z")
What’s the debate? If this is just another rant it should be moved. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/4 "2012-06-09T01:38:03Z")
You have proven that you can cut and paste. Other than that, did you think we can’t read her stuff in any number of places if we are so inclined? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/5 "2012-06-09T01:38:39Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > She’s on fire. If only… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/6 "2012-06-09T02:03:12Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > By the way, the single most interesting number in the whole race was 28,785. That is how many dues-paying members of the American Federation of State, County and Municiple Employees were left in Wisconsin after Mr. Walker allowed them to choose whether union dues would be taken from their paychecks each week. Before that, Afscme had 62,218 dues-paying members in Wisconsin. There is a degree to which public union involvement is, simply, coerced. And so they’ve decided to exchange being “coerced” into paying a little money to a union, in return for being systematically abused and exploited by their employers. That just demonstrates that a great many people are fools. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/7 "2012-06-09T02:09:08Z")
Why is she still employed anywhere? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/8 "2012-06-09T02:19:19Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > She’s on fire. I still wouldn’t piss on her. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/9 "2012-06-09T02:25:44Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And so they’ve decided to exchange being “coerced” into paying a little money to a union, in return for being systematically abused and exploited by their employers. That just demonstrates that a great many people are fools. After four years of college, they’re that incapable of judging for themselves where their own interests lie (and blind to the fact that they can switch jobs if they really are being “systematically abused and exploited”) then all I can say is thank God individuals of such low intelligence aren’t responsible for teaching our children. Um, wait . . . ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/10 "2012-06-09T02:25:54Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You have proven that you can cut and paste. But not that he can quote properly. If you can’t use the quote function, how about at least some old-timey quotation marks? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/11 "2012-06-09T02:31:03Z")
Since there is neither a debate nor much of an opinion in the OP, I am sending this off to The BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/12 "2012-06-09T02:32:06Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > After four years of college, they’re that incapable of judging for themselves where their own interests lie (and blind to the fact that they can switch jobs if they really are being “systematically abused and exploited”) then all I can say is thank God individuals of such low intelligence aren’t responsible for teaching our children. _Human beings in general_ are poor judges of their own collective self interest. If you are looking for a race of superhumans to descend from space so they can become schoolteachers, you are in for a long wait. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/13 "2012-06-09T02:38:51Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > _Human beings in general_ are poor judges of their own collective self interest. Ah, liberalism with the mask off. Refreshing! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/14 "2012-06-09T02:40:17Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > Ah, liberalism with the mask off. Refreshing! As opposed to the utter contempt for humanity which characterizes conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/15 "2012-06-09T02:47:42Z")
“Peggy Noonan is on fire and in rare form?” I’m pretty sure that goes with “Wink Martindale on a rampage” and “Abe Vigoda at his zaniest.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/16 "2012-06-09T02:51:54Z")
And she burns through the night at the speed of light! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/17 "2012-06-09T02:53:56Z")
People still read Peggy Noonan? She’s about as relevant as Pat Buchanan. And just about as repulsive. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/18 "2012-06-09T02:54:26Z")
I am not trying to start shit here, or maybe I am, but what is wrong with a state wanting public sector union employees to contribute a few percent of their salaries to pensions and healthcare? I have plenty of private sector friends, as do many of you, whose companies have made them do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/19 "2012-06-09T02:54:29Z")
Every single **Terr** OP reminds me of Stephen Colbert’s White House Correspondents Dinner, where he said something like, “The Bush Administration isn’t sinking, it’s soaring! Soaring like the Hindenburg!” or some such thing. Every time **Terr** points out how conservatives are winning, it just seems so over the top and that it has got to be a clever joke. The main difference is that Colbert is clever, and **Terr** usually just cuts and pastes a right wing article and has about six lines of commentary. (This OP had a little more effort in it, I will grant him that.) ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462/20 "2012-06-09T03:16:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > As opposed to the utter contempt for humanity which characterizes conservatives. Nope. You have it completely ass-backwards, as per usual. Conservatives like humans so much that we are willing to let them make their own decisions instead of thinking that everything will be OK if other people just did exactly what we think is best for them. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noonan-is-in-rare-form-commenting-on-wi-and-other-things/624462.md?page=2)