# Noone is born atheist

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 20, 2008, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049 "2008-12-20T07:03:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/521 "2009-01-03T17:39:21Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Well, you’ve got me curious. If you don’t post it here, could yu send me a PM?

Likewise with me, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/522 "2009-01-03T18:00:21Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Well, you’ve got me curious. If you don’t post it here, could yu send me a PM?

Me too, please!

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/523 "2009-01-03T18:21:06Z")

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Okay, I’ll take the PM too if you have the time.

On topic, I notice she didn’t comment on how utterly she got humiliated.

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**Author:** ![Jesse\_Leigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@Jesse\_Leigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Leigh)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/524 "2009-01-03T18:54:57Z")

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> So, um, if I had searched for and possibly found another forum mentioned by a poster here, would it be against the rules to post it? And maybe possibly a right-on-the-web-for-all-to-see information page about that might possibly be about said poster? Would it?

If you think you’ve found something about me on the Inet that’s so interesting and paints me in such a bad light that you simply _must_ share it on this forum - go ahead, knock yoursef out, you have my permission and my blessing, and while you’re at it, hotflungdung, oops sorry, I meant hotflungwok :smack: - get a life!

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> I thought that is why you came in the first place:
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> Luke 21:12-18  
> Quote:  
> But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. This will result in your being witnesses to them. But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. All men will hate you because of me. But not a hair of your head will perish.

Jesus also cousnels us, 'when we meet people such as are on this forum, to **‘Shake the dust off your feet, and if you wished peace upon their household, let that peace return to you.’**

I’m so doing.

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> So anyone who isn’t immediately persuaded to fall right over and convert after being subjected to your rambling witnessing is “cynical,” and “hateful,” and “not really seeking the truth.” Asking you to support your assertions is “verbally abusing” you.
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> Uh huh.
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> What did you expect is a debate forum? Did you really think you wouldn’t have to debate? What would Jesus think about you giving up so easily

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Not at all. I spent a week on this forum trying to answer every post I could. I don’t have time to LIVE here as most of you choose to do. I mind putting forth that kind of effort only to be disparaged when I’m busy for 46 hours. You actually had an interesting question, and it was primarily you I came back to answer, but… well, I think shaking the dust of my feet is a better way to go with regard to this forum.

I came here to **discuss** , where information is exchanged and people learn from one another. I did not come here to **debate** wherein the object is to WIN. I see I posted in the wrong section for discussion, so I’ll concede the debate to you. There dear, you’ve won whatever point it is you feel you have to have. Happy now?

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> Okay, I’ll take the PM too if you have the time.
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> On topic, I notice she didn’t comment on how utterly she got humiliated.

Yet another pitiful specimen who needs to get a life! :rolleyes:

Humiliated? By you? ROFLOL!

I know there’s intelligent life in the universe but it doesn’ t reside here.

Now have your fun, you’ve earned it. Let’s see how many brain cells you can kill today.

Jesse.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/525 "2009-01-03T19:08:40Z")

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> [@Jesse\_Leigh](#):
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> Yet another pitiful specimen who needs to get a life! :rolleyes:

I have a life. I just don’t have to pretend that a magic space-jew got nailed to a tree to make it worth living. 😃

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> Humiliated? By you? ROFLOL!

No, but Diogenes above.

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> I know there’s intelligent life in the universe but it doesn’ t reside here.
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> Now have your fun, you’ve earned it. Let’s see how many brain cells you can kill today.
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> Jesse.

Bumper sticker quotes don’t approximate intelligence or education.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/526 "2009-01-03T19:30:30Z")

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> [@Jesse\_Leigh](#):
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> If you think you’ve found something about me on the Inet that’s so interesting and paints me in such a bad light that you simply _must_ share it on this forum - go ahead, knock yoursef out, you have my permission and my blessing, and while you’re at it, hotflungdung, oops sorry, I meant hotflungwok :smack: - get a life!

What are you, 8?

You came into a debate forum, made a lot of completely unsubstantiated claims, and then you have the nerve to act surprised and insulted when you get called on it? You had every chance to defend your statements, and chose instead to keep repeating empty platitudes and quotes from a book written by superstitious men centuries ago. And now, rather than try to learn something, you’re off in a huff, but not before trying to get in a little name calling before you run out the door. If this is how you express your version of Christianity, then I most definitely want no part of it.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/527 "2009-01-03T19:32:41Z")

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> [@Jesse\_Leigh](#):
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> If you think you’ve found something about me on the Inet that’s so interesting and paints me in such a bad light that you simply _must_ share it on this forum - go ahead, knock yoursef out, you have my permission and my blessing, and while you’re at it, hotflungdung, oops sorry, I meant hotflungwok :smack: - get a life!

Wow, that’s very Christian of you. Also quite mature.

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> Not at all. I spent a week on this forum trying to answer every post I could. I don’t have time to LIVE here as most of you choose to do. I mind putting forth that kind of effort only to be disparaged when I’m busy for 46 hours. You actually had an interesting question, and it was primarily you I came back to answer, but… well, I think shaking the dust of my feet is a better way to go with regard to this forum.

I asked several questions. Which one were you going to answer?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/528 "2009-01-03T21:35:18Z")

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> [@Jesse\_Leigh](#):
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> hotflungdung, oops sorry, I meant hotflungwok

**Moderator’s Warning:** Personal insults are not allowed in the Great Debates forum. Please don’t do that again.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/529 "2009-01-04T11:59:25Z")

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> [@Jesse\_Leigh](#):
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> I spent a week on this forum trying to answer every post I could. I don’t have time to LIVE here as most of you choose to do. I mind putting forth that kind of effort only to be disparaged when I’m busy for 46 hours. You actually had an interesting question, and it was primarily you I came back to answer, but… well, I think shaking the dust of my feet is a better way to go with regard to this forum.

You’re a salesperson, by profession. But you haven’t yet sold anyone on the merits of christianity. Many people asked you questions about your product, but you never gave anyone a straight answer.

Snake-oil salesman do this all the time. They choose words that sound pretty, but have no real substance or are downright lies. Your “marks” are more discriminating than you’d anticipated.

The delusion is warm and fuzzy sometimes (though at othertimes it’s downright terrifying!) but you have nothing but your holy book of fables to back it up. And when someone takes the time to point out the flaws in your book, you respond with more circular reasoning, which is very insulting to the people who’ve taken the time to attend your presentation.

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**Author:** ![slime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@slime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slime)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/530 "2009-01-04T17:14:58Z")

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The christian church has come out with a diet version of the communion wafer-it’s called-  
I can’t believe it’s not Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/531 "2009-01-05T02:20:00Z")

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> [@Pazu](#):
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> Likewise with me, thanks!

Same here.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noone-is-born-atheist/478049/532 "2009-01-05T02:35:21Z")

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> [@slime](#):
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> The christian church has come out with a diet version of the communion wafer-it’s called-  
> I can’t believe it’s not Jesus.

H-yuk!😃

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