# Nooo, Tippecanoe, how could you fail us?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 19, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017 "2009-01-19T18:14:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/21 "2009-01-20T08:32:30Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> And, of course, at this point, the only benefit from that would be a limiting of the Bush pardons on his way out.

No need to limit them. There won’t be any. It was already announced that commuting of the sentences of the two Border Patrol Agents was the last. He was not the pardon machine that Clinton or Reagan was.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/22 "2009-01-20T08:57:09Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Good point. We finally have incontrovertible proof he stole the election.

The only problem with this is, it isn’t. A good point, that is. Stealing is illegal. Bush was held by the highest court in the land to be entitled to the presidency. You may not like that - and there have been plenty of Supreme Court decisions that I haven’t liked over the years - but by definition if the Supreme Court says so, that makes it legal.

ETA: And to the OP, since Reagan didn’t die in office it’s obvious that not every president elected in a year ending in zero has died while in office. I know what you meant, but still…

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/23 "2009-01-20T10:11:12Z")

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> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> The only problem with this is, it isn’t. A good point, that is. Stealing is illegal. Bush was held by the highest court in the land to be entitled to the presidency.

whooooooooooooosh!

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**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/24 "2009-01-20T11:05:58Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Yeah. I shudder to think how horrible things might’ve been if _Dick Cheney_ were the one in charge!

You really think he _hasn’t_ been in charge for the last eight years?

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/25 "2009-01-20T15:55:24Z")

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Well, there’s still about an hour left, perhaps he could slip and fall and break his neck? Or someone tries to shoot Obama and he shields him with his own body because he knows that everyone loves Obama and if he saves his life his approval ratings will go up?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/26 "2009-01-20T17:03:39Z")

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Biden is now VP, but Obama is not yet sworn in, so if anything happens to Bush during the music, Biden becomes the 44th President & Obama is 45th.

UNLESS BIDEN DECLARES MARTIAL LAW AND DOESN’T LET OBAMA SWEAR IN!

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/27 "2009-01-20T17:09:40Z")

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It’s done. Bush beat it! Haw haw!

God bless & protect President Obama!

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/28 "2009-01-20T17:17:26Z")

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The Bush-bashing threads are dead! Long live the Obama-bashing threads!

First up - he screwed up the oath of office!

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/29 "2009-01-20T17:40:21Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Biden is now VP, but Obama is not yet sworn in, so if anything happens to Bush during the music, Biden becomes the 44th President & Obama is 45th.
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> UNLESS BIDEN DECLARES MARTIAL LAW AND DOESN’T LET OBAMA SWEAR IN!

Everybody’s Kung fu fightin!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/30 "2009-01-20T17:43:29Z")

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At long last, we can finally discuss impeaching Obama.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/31 "2009-01-20T19:53:48Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> The Bush-bashing threads are dead! Long live the Obama-bashing threads!
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> First up - he screwed up the oath of office!

What it sounded like to me was screwing up an opportunity to make CJ Roberts look like a putz.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/32 "2009-01-21T06:18:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> At long last, we can finally discuss impeaching Obama.

Let me be the first to say that Obama will declare martial law and suspend the (checks math) 2012 elections. Its true I tell ya.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/33 "2009-01-21T06:28:30Z")

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Yeah, and that Rick Warren guy, with his “Our Father, who art in Heaven” stuff? That sounds real familiar, I think he lifted that.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/34 "2009-01-21T06:30:40Z")

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Still, its good to see they’ve found a worthy successor for Maya Angelou.

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**Author:** ![maggenpye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/35 "2009-01-21T09:09:14Z")

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So does the latest development mean that, by the law of Tippecanoe, \*Kennedy \*should have been the President?

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**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/36 "2009-01-21T20:36:12Z")

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Still true if you include brain dead.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/37 "2009-01-21T21:09:29Z")

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Just think, if Tippecanoe hadn’t been stymied by the 2000 theft, we might now have President Joe Lieberman.

Prolly a good thing, huh?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/38 "2009-01-22T18:38:59Z")

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> [@Alex\_Dubinsky](#):
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> And now, Bush puts an end to a century and a half of history. Damn you! And to think, you better than anyone had it coming.

Actually, it’s speculated that on 9/11 Flight 84 was going to target the White House. So there was an attempted assassination. Yes, I know Bush wasn’t there.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/39 "2009-01-22T18:51:40Z")

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Cheney missed.

(Although a Pres not being shot is not the same as the VP shooting someone, it is close enough to keep the tradition alive.)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nooo-tippecanoe-how-could-you-fail-us/482017/40 "2009-01-23T01:00:27Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Just think, if Tippecanoe hadn’t been stymied by the 2000 theft, we might now have President Joe Lieberman.
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> Prolly a good thing, huh?

Or, if Reagan hadn’t broken it, we would have had Bush I that much sooner. (Whether or not that would have been a good thing, I can’t say. At least he wasn’t a moron.)

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