# North Carolina passes hateful Amendment 1

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 9, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351 "2012-05-09T02:33:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/301 "2012-05-24T17:08:41Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> In yet another episode of Preachers Behaving Badly, I give you [Pastor Charles Worley](http://www.ktvz.com/news/31102494/detail.html) who has figure out a way to deal with North Carolina’s problem with gay people.

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> Some church members, who declined to give their names, defended their pastor, saying his words had been taken out of context. “He said he would feed them!” some church members told CNN, referring to the Worley’s idea for rounding up gays.

He’ll feed them? Oh, ok then.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/302 "2012-05-24T17:18:38Z")

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“… into the ovens!”

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/303 "2012-05-24T17:22:10Z")

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“To Serve Gays.”

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/304 "2012-05-24T17:32:39Z")

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> “Listen, all of the Sodomites, the lesbians, and all of the … what’s that word? Gays – I didn’t wanna say ‘queers’ – that say we don’t love you, I love you more than you love yourself,” Worley said, according to WBTV. “I’m praying for you to be saved.”

…and I just want to inter you until that salvation happens…however long it takes…until you fucking die out…

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/305 "2012-05-24T17:39:48Z")

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Wow, Worley must be super Gay.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/306 "2012-05-24T19:22:21Z")

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> “Build a great big, large fence – 50 or 100 miles long – and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley said. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.”

“And just to be safe, we’ll have to keep all the god-fearing straights from reproducing too, because every gay person out there is the product of a man and a woman. Give having babies a moratorium of about 50 years, and boom! The problem of gay people being born is solved.”

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/307 "2012-05-24T19:58:23Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> My family is from North Carolina and I am really bummed that this thing passed.
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> And bummed for my family, my 86 year old mother has been campaigning heavily against Amendment One as she was in tears when it passed-------------she even made her nephews register to vote so they could vote against it…and by “made” I mean she drove them to the polls when early voting started and made them go in and register and vote NO as a condition for continuing to live under her roof.
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> So it sucks sucks sucks but don’t tar all NC residents with the same brush, there were a lot of NO votes.

I can’t think of a better way for her to get her nephews to vote YES than that.

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/308 "2012-05-24T20:33:49Z")

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Can gay people get marriend inside the fence? If so it sounds like a win-win.

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**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/309 "2012-05-25T19:20:51Z")

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I’m telling you all, some mainstream religion needs to declare as part of their doctrinal beliefs that marriage is between two people who love each other, regardless of gender. Turn this whole thing into a 1st amendment fight. if your religion doesn’t like it, they don’t have to do it, but don’t infringe on the rights of other philosophical/religious beliefs.

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**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/310 "2012-05-25T19:24:39Z")

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ooh, other quick idea: we can put all the homosexuals in their fence, but only if we can put all the froth-at-the-mouth-I-hate-anything-the-Bible-lets-me-conservative-christians in another fenced in preserve, where the water is laced with birth control.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/311 "2012-05-25T20:26:58Z")

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> [@pikey\_pete](#):
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> I’m telling you all, some mainstream religion needs to declare as part of their doctrinal beliefs that marriage is between two people who love each other, regardless of gender. Turn this whole thing into a 1st amendment fight. if your religion doesn’t like it, they don’t have to do it, but don’t infringe on the rights of other philosophical/religious beliefs.

Some of the “liberal Christian” camps are into this, I’m not sure what the First Amendment relevance is though.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/312 "2012-05-25T22:13:57Z")

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> [@newcrasher](#):
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> I don’t give a flying fuck at a rolling donut who marries whom. I don’t know why anyone else does. We get one shot at this life and if you want to limit someone else’s happiness, you are a terrible person.

This is one of the best presentations of this argument that I’ve ever heard. I hope you don’t mind I posted this quote on Facebook.

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**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/313 "2012-05-25T23:09:02Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> Some of the “liberal Christian” camps are into this, I’m not sure what the First Amendment relevance is though.

easy, well, “gay marriage is a part of our belief structure. your state law/consttitutional amendment violates our freedom of religious expression. The US Bill of Rights says that you can’t do that.” Abracadabra, you now have a 1st amendment case on your hands.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/314 "2012-05-25T23:36:38Z")

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Why can’t those fucking asshole dickwad inbred caveman moron single-helix chucklehead hicks show some empathy, already?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/315 "2012-05-26T01:20:18Z")

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> [@pikey\_pete](#):
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> easy, well, “gay marriage is a part of our belief structure. your state law/consttitutional amendment violates our freedom of religious expression. The US Bill of Rights says that you can’t do that.” Abracadabra, you now have a 1st amendment case on your hands.

You… you don’t actually know how First Amendment cases work, do you?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/316 "2012-05-26T01:34:20Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> Some of the “liberal Christian” camps are into this…

Hey, I’m a liberal Christian. But I didn’t know about getting to go to camp!

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/317 "2012-05-26T01:59:02Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> You… you don’t actually know how First Amendment cases work, do you?

I may be misreading him but I think he’s describing the faulty but omnipresent arguments that anti-gay religious groups frequently make. I’m not reading his post as endorsing it, just describing it. “Marriage equality violates our first amendment rights” is a frequent (and obviously fallacious) argument that these jerks tend to advance.

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/318 "2012-05-26T02:12:09Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> **Tao** , if **Chaim** were an evangelical Christian bigot, you would have a strong point here. But are you aware what Orthodox Jews believe are binding on us Gentiles? Five, six, or seven (depending on which source you consult) “Noachic commandments” handed down to Adam, Seth, or Noah. The 631 _mitzvoth_ such as no pork. no shellfish,. no linseywoolsey, forcing a rapist to marryt his victimn, etc.? They’re all binding onoly on _ **Jews** _. And the Noachic commandments? Horribly oppressive thiungs like prohibiting murder.
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> It’s the [del]morons[/del] [del]bigoted assholes[/del] evangelicl Christians who believe the whole (Protestant) Bible is “the Word of God” (despite its saying the contrary) eho want to force you to abide by their beliefs.
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> Sometimes, “the **Tao** which is posted before you is not the Tao which you should read.” (Lao-Tse, slightly modified) 🙂

Uh, are you aware that the Noachide Covenant, as interpreted by traditional Jewish scholarship, _does_ ban gay sex? It doesn’t ban mixed fiber clothing or eating shellfish but the law against “sexual immorality” is consistently held to include gay sex.

So this is a weird discussion in which to try to defend the Noachide laws as not being oppressive. I mean, apparently Ha’Shem holds “don’t murder” and “don’t have gay sex” as equivalent commandments.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/319 "2012-05-26T08:21:02Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> You… you don’t actually know how First Amendment cases work, do you?

Would a federal law declaring marriage to be between a man and a woman be placing undue burden on Episcopal churches?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/320 "2012-05-26T08:46:32Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> Would a federal law declaring marriage to be between a man and a woman be placing undue burden on Episcopal churches?

Well, the government isn’t preventing the “free exercise” of Episcopal churches to perform same-sex marriages - they just don’t legally recognize the result.

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