# North Carolina passes hateful Amendment 1 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351 "2012-05-09T02:33:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/41 "2012-05-09T11:37:10Z")
EDIT: Wow! Front page! Sorry, forgot this isn’t Reddit. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/42 "2012-05-09T11:56:42Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > The people of North Carolina have voted on gay marriage, and they’re agin’ it. Fine. I don’t like that result, but I don’t live in North Carolina, and I have no plans to move to North Carolina. If I did have such plans, this would be a factor that I would weigh in the mix (and would tend to dissuade me from moving there). But it’s a voting issue, people voted, and there you go. It sucks for gay people in NC that want the same rights as straight married people, but they can weigh that into their continuing decision to live in NC. As long as institutionalized bigotry and hatred doesn’t effect Rand Rover, eh? Unless it’s you on the end of the mob of mouth breathing idiots’ vileness, it doesn’t really bother you. And I loved how you threw in the old “if they don’t like it, they can move” canard. You’re a moron. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/43 "2012-05-09T12:08:37Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That’s why this move surprised me, and makes me wonder IF in fact he did it. In addition to his relative apolitical public persona, he’s 93 with a laundry list of physical ailments. I would not be surprised if his birther/Fox News prayin’ pundit/Textbook Tired of Daddy’s Shadow dwellin’ troglodyte/racist son Franklin didn’t have more to do with this than the old man. I always thought he was a bit classier than that too…I’m pretty sure he’s just a puppet for his kids at this point though. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/44 "2012-05-09T12:14:49Z")
Billy was far from classy when he agreed with Nixon’s antisemitic rants and then lied about it for decades until the tape was released. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/45 "2012-05-09T12:40:26Z")
> [@newcrasher](#): > > Retirees and snow birds are two different things. Retirees actually move their permanent residence to the new location. Snow birds, as the name suggests, only travel down seasonally and probably keep their residence in their home state. Thanks! I used the wrong word, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/46 "2012-05-09T12:42:01Z")
The amazing thing about Amendment 1 is that it doesn’t just preclude gay marriage, but civil unions. I can understand - emphatically _not_ “agree with,” but understand - how one could honestly say “I bear homosexuals no ill-will, and wish them well - but ‘marriage’ is a specific label for hetersexual relationships, and I find it distressing to apply it to anything else.” But I can’t understand banning civil unions as anything other than pure malice - not just misguided fundamentalism, but an actual desire to keep people from visiting their sick loved ones in the hospital. That’s even more bizarre than opposition to gay marriage, imho. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/47 "2012-05-09T13:05:48Z")
…kind of a cross post and likely not at all Pit worthy, but in **jtgain** ’s [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651158) he links to [this article](http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/08/2052643/marriage-amendment-latest-results.html). Not being familiar with the subject or the poster, and given the oblique OP, I looked at the lead picture and thought Gay Marriage Had Been Legalized IN N.C.! (Mary Frances Forrester and Tami Fitzgerald make a cute couple.) ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/48 "2012-05-09T13:06:55Z")
☹ I am very disappointed in you, people of North Carolina. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/49 "2012-05-09T13:22:15Z")
My family is from North Carolina and I am really bummed that this thing passed. And bummed for my family, my 86 year old mother has been campaigning heavily against Amendment One as she was in tears when it passed-------------she even made her nephews register to vote so they could vote against it…and by “made” I mean she drove them to the polls when early voting started and made them go in and register and vote NO as a condition for continuing to live under her roof. So it sucks sucks sucks but don’t tar all NC residents with the same brush, there were a lot of NO votes. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/50 "2012-05-09T13:31:10Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > So it sucks sucks sucks but don’t tar all NC residents with the same brush, there were a lot of NO votes. I know, my in-laws live there, and had an anti-amendment yard sign. I’m certainly disappointed in anyone who voted Yes on this, though. > [@Jeep's Phoenix](#): > > And, as you’ve seen, the state is full of ignorant redneck asshats who will loudly proclaim that same-sex marriage is “against Gawd’s will”, but will be first in line for shrimp at the local barbeque joint on Friday. North Carolina barbecue is, as I understand it, pork. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/51 "2012-05-09T13:33:19Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > she even made her nephews register to vote so they could vote against it…and by “made” I mean she drove them to the polls when early voting started and made them go in and register and vote NO as a condition for continuing to live under her roof. No matter how you feel about the issue, I’m not sure this is cool. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/52 "2012-05-09T13:42:16Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > The amazing thing about Amendment 1 is that it doesn’t just preclude gay marriage, but civil unions. I can understand - emphatically _not_ “agree with,” but understand - how one could honestly say “I bear homosexuals no ill-will, and wish them well - but ‘marriage’ is a specific label for hetersexual relationships, and I find it distressing to apply it to anything else.” > > But I can’t understand banning civil unions Are you talking about the folks who wrote the Amendment, or the ones who voted for it? Because I’m wondering how many voters would’ve split the difference if given the chance to vote up-or-down on two separate items – but who are so distressed by gay marriage that, well, given a choice to ban both or ban neither, they’ll vote to ban both. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/53 "2012-05-09T13:47:54Z")
> [@newcrasher](#): > > I am a straight, married male. I don’t give a flying fuck at a rolling donut who marries whom. I don’t know why anyone else does. We get one shot at this life and if you want to limit someone else’s happiness, you are a terrible \ I don’t think I could have said it better myself (except the male part). This is another big, unfortunate step backwards. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/54 "2012-05-09T14:19:57Z")
Seen on Facebook today: “If you have to make a law that hurts a number of people just to prove your morals or faith, then you have no true morals or faith to prove.” ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/55 "2012-05-09T14:24:44Z")
I didn’t expect it to fail, but I also didn’t expect to be as angry as I am, either. > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > And bummed for my family, my 86 year old mother has been campaigning heavily against Amendment One as she was in tears when it passed-------------she even made her nephews register to vote so they could vote against it…and by “made” I mean she drove them to the polls when early voting started and made them go in and register and vote NO as a condition for continuing to live under her roof. Not legal, not ethical, and not cool. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/56 "2012-05-09T14:27:37Z")
To my fellow North Carolinians who voted for this absurd piece of shit: Next time you want to inflict your hateful bullshit on people that aren’t doing anything to you, why don’t go play in traffic instead. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/57 "2012-05-09T14:36:42Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > she even made her nephews register to vote so they could vote against it…and by “made” I mean she drove them to the polls when early voting started and made them go in and register and vote NO as a condition for continuing to live under her roof. Well, she made 'em _ **say** _ they voted “no,” anyway. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/58 "2012-05-09T14:37:26Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’ve seen absolutely no difference in how anyone leads their lives. [Infographic](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2012/may/08/gay-rights-united-states) courtesy of the Guardian ought to help. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/59 "2012-05-09T14:37:52Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > As long as institutionalized bigotry and hatred doesn’t effect Rand Rover, eh? Unless it’s you on the end of the mob of mouth breathing idiots’ vileness, it doesn’t really bother you. > > And I loved how you threw in the old “if they don’t like it, they can move” canard. > > You’re a moron. It hurts me to say this, but I think this is an unfair response to what **RR** said. He thinks it’s a state issue, the state made their decision—not the decision he would’ve made personally—and as a non-resident of the state there’s not much he can do at this point but commiserate. I don’t necessarily agree, but I don’t think he deserves to be the thread’s honorary whipping boy and stand-in for the NC jackasses who did vote the amendment through. Now please, for the love of God, never make me defend \*\*Rand Rover \*\*again. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/60 "2012-05-09T14:46:52Z")
On the plus side, no doubt the gay community will immediately stop smoking, since purchasing American tobacco products inevitably funnels a lot of dollars into the conservative areas of NC politics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351.md?page=4)