# North Korea Carries Out Controversial Rocket Launch **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 12, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801 "2012-12-12T05:33:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/1 "2012-12-12T05:33:44Z")
Story [here](http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/11/world/asia/north-korea-rocket-launch/index.html?hpt=hp_t1). Passed over Okinawa. Not a good sign that they defied even their ally China on this. And it goes to show the military will do what they damned well please regardless of probably even what that chubby little king they’ve got thinks of it. BBC was interviewing ex-State Department East Asian specialist Christopher Hill in Denver, Colorado, and he doesn’t think it has anything to do with the upcoming South Korean elections. He said after the last launch fizzled out, it was inevitable that they would try again. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/2 "2012-12-12T11:19:39Z")
How terrifying. Soon, they might have 1950’s technology at their disposal. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/3 "2012-12-12T12:07:08Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > How terrifying. Soon, they might have 1950’s technology at their disposal. To go with their 1920’s style death rays! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/4 "2012-12-12T14:51:11Z")
Looks like they finally managed to [put a satellite into orbit](http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/12/world/asia/north-korea-rocket-launch/index.html?hpt=hp_t1). I wonder if it contains the Dear Leader’s ashes. ---
**Author:** ![y7xzh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e9c0ed/32.png) [@y7xzh1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/y7xzh1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/5 "2012-12-12T17:35:14Z")
hey ,i am a chinese!!! i want talk with you , my english is learn from internet i did it ,only from internet u want talk about that rocket ？ my chinese newspaper said it is already fired !and it seems success yeah,north korea got so many problem,they are badman but really not a trouble ,because we china will control them are we ,china gonna be a threat to you america u.s? that i wounld say i want be a friend .can i represent enough chinese. if there are anyone chinese resist you america ,he or they are my hostile ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/6 "2012-12-12T18:24:38Z")
huh? where did they find a bottle that big for the launch? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/7 "2012-12-12T20:22:15Z")
> [@y7xzh1](#): > > but really not a trouble ,because we china will control them So, all thier base will belong to you? Carry On, my brother! ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/8 "2012-12-12T21:13:46Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > He said after the last launch fizzled out, it was inevitable that they would try again. I wonder if they used [model rocket engines this time.](http://what-if.xkcd.com/24/) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/9 "2012-12-13T02:20:29Z")
> [@y7xzh1](#): > > hey ,i am a chinese!!! > i want talk with you , my english is learn from internet > i did it ,only from internet > u want talk about that rocket ？ > my chinese newspaper said it is already fired !and it seems success > yeah,north korea got so many problem,they are badman > but really not a trouble ,because we china will control them > are we ,china gonna be a threat to you america u.s? > that i wounld say i want be a friend .can i represent enough chinese. > if there are anyone chinese resist you america ,he or they are my hostile Yes…thanks. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/10 "2012-12-13T02:50:47Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Looks like they finally managed to [put a satellite into orbit](http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/12/world/asia/north-korea-rocket-launch/index.html?hpt=hp_t1). > > I wonder if it contains the Dear Leader’s ashes. Aren’t they embalmbing Kim Jong-Il and putting his corpse on public display like his father? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/11 "2012-12-13T02:58:41Z")
[According to the US](http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/12/15866530-north-korean-satellite-tumbling-out-of-control-us-officials-say?lite) the satellite is “tumbling out of control” and they can’t tell what it was supposed to do. > [@](#): > > The object that North Korea sent into space on Wednesday appears to be “tumbling out of control” as it orbits the earth, U.S. officials told NBC News. > > The officials said that it is indeed some kind of space vehicle, but they still haven’t been able to determine exactly what the satellite is supposed to do. > > In a statement, the White House said the rocket launch was a highly provocative act that threatens regional security and violates U.N. resolutions. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/12 "2012-12-13T03:14:40Z")
Fuck North Korea. Wait…no _you_ fuck North Korea! I ain’t sticking it in that diseased ho! ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/13 "2012-12-13T03:49:05Z")
> [@y7xzh1](#): > > hey ,i am a chinese!!! > i want talk with you , my english is learn from internet > i did it ,only from internet > u want talk about that rocket ？ > my chinese newspaper said it is already fired !and it seems success > yeah,north korea got so many problem,they are badman > but really not a trouble ,because we china will control them > are we ,china gonna be a threat to you america u.s? > that i wounld say i want be a friend .can i represent enough chinese. > if there are anyone chinese resist you america ,he or they are my hostile User hostile’s the name, and mocking Best Korea’s the game. I, for one, am thankful millions upon millions of plankton did not die in vain. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/14 "2012-12-13T04:32:56Z")
> [@y7xzh1](#): > > hey ,i am a chinese!!! > i want talk with you , my english is learn from internet > i did it ,only from internet > u want talk about that rocket ？ > my chinese newspaper said it is already fired !and it seems success > yeah,north korea got so many problem,they are badman > but really not a trouble ,because we china will control them > are we ,china gonna be a threat to you america u.s? > that i wounld say i want be a friend .can i represent enough chinese. > if there are anyone chinese resist you america ,he or they are my hostile China says they’ll control north korea but I think the world knows when the collapse happens it will be a gigantic mess. About 23 million people who have been malnourished and psychologically tortured on various levels will be expected to join the international community and form a functioning society. I read if there was reunification it would cost South Korea trillions of dollars to help North Korea get on its feet. Not to mention all the residual authoritarian fawning and distrust of neighbors that is going to exist because people have been raised under such a mind control cult. I get the impression China wants NK to open itself up economically like China has, but NK won’t because they know opening up to the world will educate the people enough about the outside world to destabalize the regime. What do you think will happen when China’s GDP overtakes the US in about 5-10 years? ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/15 "2012-12-13T07:31:13Z")
Apparently, the Axis of Evil buddy, Iran, provided assistance to ensure the success of the launch. Naturally, America was too amazing a nation to need the help of any outsiders.\* On a more serious note, the North Koreans aren’t doing too bad here. Teething pains were a big part of our rocketry in the 50’s and early 60’s…one only needs to remember our great success with launching [Vanguard TV3](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeFkakURXM) which was broadcast to the world. Granted, at least the USA we’ll show the good with the bad; whereas the PRC and DPRK…mmm…not so much. \*[Cough] Wernher Von [Cough] Braun [Cough][Cough] ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/16 "2012-12-13T11:28:51Z")
Agreed with user hostile, while its is pretty amusing to mock North Korea they _have_ managed to put a satellite in orbit and they _have_ nuclear warheads. Its only a matter of refining their technology and techniques before they have usable ICBM’s. Its all fun and games until somebody loses a major population centre! ---
**Author:** ![firstname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ab992/32.png) [@firstname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/firstname)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/17 "2012-12-13T13:17:08Z")
I thought Best Korea was just trying to put the great leaders ashes into space, or maybe a monkey (because the come back super smart). ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/18 "2012-12-14T01:02:20Z")
> [@firstname](#): > > I thought Best Korea was just trying to put the great leaders ashes into space, or maybe a monkey (because the come back super smart). That was no monkey aboard, that was Kim Jong-un. However, I for one welcome our pudgy new overlord. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/19 "2012-12-14T01:05:49Z")
> [@Disposable Hero](#): > > Agreed with user hostile, while its is pretty amusing to mock North Korea they _have_ managed to put a satellite in orbit and they _have_ nuclear warheads. Its only a matter of refining their technology and techniques before they have usable ICBM’s. > > Its all fun and games until somebody loses a major population centre! Crazy as they may be, that doesn’t seem to be in their interests under any definition. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801/20 "2012-12-14T01:10:01Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Crazy as they may be, that doesn’t seem to be in their interests under any definition. Says the poster – whose location is listed as the Pacific NW – with a hint of desperate hope in his voice. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-carries-out-controversial-rocket-launch/643801.md?page=2)