# North Korea: The Mouse That Roared

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 7, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081 "2013-04-07T16:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/1 "2013-04-07T16:17:47Z")

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I think I’ve got it sussed. Li’l Kim’s plan is to get into a war with the U.S. He plans on losing. Afterward, he’ll collect foreign aid from the U.S. to rebuild his country.

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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/2 "2013-04-07T16:22:24Z")

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Just one teeny, tiny hitch in the plan - he’s not gonna be around to enjoy the fruits of his brilliant scheme…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/3 "2013-04-07T16:26:53Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I think I’ve got it sussed. Li’l Kim’s plan is to get into a war with the U.S. He plans on losing. Afterward, he’ll collect foreign aid from the U.S. to rebuild his country.

I’m pretty sure rebuilding his country is at the bottom of a long list of priorities.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/4 "2013-04-07T16:29:00Z")

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Let’s hope his Q-bomb is a dud.

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**Author:** ![toofs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@toofs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toofs)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/5 "2013-04-07T16:36:13Z")

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The Mouse That Roared…

…is the mouse that gets squished.

In reality, he will continue his amusing little tantrum and at some point, South Korea, Japan, or the USA will relent and give him what he wants. One of us always does. NK will receive free food, free fuel, and free medical supplies all for the affordable price of threatening those around him. We will pay his bribe.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/6 "2013-04-07T21:06:45Z")

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Is lil’ Kim married? We could have a wedding when it’s all over. Maybe Obama’s older daughter could step up to the plate!😛

( I loved that book!)

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/7 "2013-04-07T21:25:09Z")

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Yeah, that worked really well in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/8 "2013-04-09T03:03:55Z")

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I’ve been thinking about that play since the NK kerfluffle started. But the guy who starred in it in our junior high production was MUCH cuter than L’il Kim. Hmmm…it’s been 44 years since I saw that play…I should revisit it. Wonder what Jack C. looks like now…

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/9 "2013-04-09T18:47:09Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I think I’ve got it sussed. Li’l Kim’s plan is to get into a war with the U.S. He plans on losing. Afterward, he’ll collect foreign aid from the U.S. to rebuild his country.

And there’s one goddamned 2nd lieutenant who’ll accidentally capture Washington D.C. and ruin the whole plan.

So the hijack, then, is what happens when NK gets the keys to the US? Lil Kim gets access to more money than he can imagine, more nukes than he can count, more land than he can see, and an armed population so used to fighting with itself he can count on uprisings crushing themselves (see _Life of Brian_, PFJ vs. Campaign for Free Galilee).

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**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/10 "2013-04-10T09:36:00Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Is lil’ Kim married?

[Yes, he is](http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&as_st=y&biw=1024&bih=645&tbm=isch&tbnid=5RROifVNYIA_UM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57479660/n-koreas-kim-jong-un-married-state-tv-reports/&docid=BEes1ioLhYMGGM&imgurl=http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/07/26/kim_yong_un_wife_AP597713538497_620x350.JPG&w=620&h=350&ei=-zFlUeC1NtDCswbzzoHoCg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:2,s:0,i:91&iact=rc&dur=544&page=1&tbnh=167&tbnw=299&start=0&ndsp=11&tx=129&ty=91).

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/11 "2013-04-10T12:41:12Z")

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It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I recall the mouse that roared being for _peace_.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/12 "2013-04-10T12:52:47Z")

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I mean-nothing happens-doesn’t the little pisspot lose face? He’s obviously trying to extort oil/food/money. Suppose the world just ignores him?  
That would be the best option.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/13 "2013-04-10T13:50:46Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> I mean-nothing happens-doesn’t the little pisspot lose face? He’s obviously trying to extort oil/food/money. Suppose the world just ignores him?  
> That would be the best option.

Tribute, not extort. Tribute :rolleyes:. It’s sad for the NK People, but if this keeps up, I suspect that we will just watch them circle the drain.

Sad really. If they would stop their threats and posturing, we would help them.

I must recommend a very good book on the conditions of NK. ‘Nothing to Envy’. It was recommended by someone else here and is a VERY good read.

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/14 "2013-04-10T14:09:54Z")

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> [@Floater](#):
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> [Yes, he is](http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&as_st=y&biw=1024&bih=645&tbm=isch&tbnid=5RROifVNYIA_UM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57479660/n-koreas-kim-jong-un-married-state-tv-reports/&docid=BEes1ioLhYMGGM&imgurl=http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/07/26/kim_yong_un_wife_AP597713538497_620x350.JPG&w=620&h=350&ei=-zFlUeC1NtDCswbzzoHoCg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:2,s:0,i:91&iact=rc&dur=544&page=1&tbnh=167&tbnw=299&start=0&ndsp=11&tx=129&ty=91).

The current [LICD](http://www.leasticoulddo.com) you need to go back a week or so (spoiler due to possible NSFW content) arc has a spin on Kim Jong Un’s behaviour. Made me laugh.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korea-the-mouse-that-roared/655081/15 "2013-04-10T14:13:10Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> I mean-nothing happens-doesn’t the little pisspot lose face? He’s obviously trying to extort oil/food/money. Suppose the world just ignores him?  
> That would be the best option.

Nah, his minions just produce a “documentary” that shows NK winning the war against the imperial forces. The people pretend to believe it, cause that’s how they stay alive. Kim remains a god in his own eyes.

In reality nothing changes, but since when has reality mattered in NK?
