# North Korean pop star? The new Kim's new squeeze? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 10, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831 "2012-07-10T20:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/1 "2012-07-10T20:58:51Z")
[Found this pretty amusing (to me) story](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/kim-jong-un-mystery-woman-145327445.html) about a “mystery woman” who has been shown twice now keeping company with the newest lil’ Kim. She seems quite attractive, so I certainly can’t fault Kim’s taste. But he’s probably crushing the dreams of millions of little North Korean girls who wanted to grow up and be at his side. But what I really like about the story was the list of the woman’s hit songs, including: > [@](#): > > …Her popularity “peaked in 2005 with the song ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’” the Telegraph said… ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/2 "2012-07-10T21:16:00Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > …Her popularity “peaked in 2005 with the song ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’” the Telegraph said… I’ve heard of “hung like a horse” but not “vagina’s as big as a horse’s” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/3 "2012-07-10T23:00:20Z")
> [@](#): > > …Her popularity “peaked in 2005 with the song ‘Excellent Horse-Like Lady,’” the Telegraph said… Obviously, something got lost in translation, here. Maybe it’s s story song about an excellent horse which likes a lady. Or maybe it’s what the vendors shout when they’re working the stands at North Korean sporting events; “I have some excellent barbecued horse for sale, you’ll like this, lady” but it gets shortened to speed things up. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/4 "2012-07-10T23:02:10Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Obviously, something got lost in translation, here. > > Maybe it’s s story song about an excellent horse which likes a lady. > > Or maybe it’s what the vendors shout when they’re working the stands at North Korean sporting events; “I have some excellent barbecued horse for sale, you’ll like this, lady” but it gets shortened to speed things up. I think it’s more like, “the excellent lady who works like a horse for the Revolution.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/5 "2012-07-11T03:22:43Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I think it’s more like, “the excellent lady who works like a horse for the Revolution.” I don’t think the North Korean government would approve of a song like that. The official party line is that people don’t have to pull plows and such because horses are plentiful. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/6 "2012-07-11T03:24:34Z")
Not literally like a horse, but figuratively, something akin to _tirelessly_. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/7 "2012-07-11T03:52:29Z")
[NPR](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/07/10/156557216/is-kim-jong-uns-mystery-woman-the-excellent-horse-like-lady) has a link to the video of the ‘hit song’ as well as a translation of the lyrics, courtesy of a helpful reader. > [@](#): > > "they say i am a virgin on a stallion > "mounting a stallion my dear leader gave me > “all my life i will live to uphold his name” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/8 "2012-07-11T04:00:11Z")
All I can make of it, even with a translation, is that she’s an excellent lady who likes at least one male horse. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/9 "2012-07-11T04:07:13Z")
Frau Blucher? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/10 "2012-07-11T05:06:38Z")
> [@](#): > > "they say i am a virgin on a stallion > "mounting a stallion my dear leader gave me > “all my life i will live to uphold his name” I think I called it right with “horses are plentiful”. ETA: Whiinnnnnneey! ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/11 "2012-07-12T01:25:00Z")
[Wrong country, but first thing I thought of.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaaI6eciCrc) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/12 "2012-07-12T01:29:35Z")
The message? “Our leadership is not a total sausage fest” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/13 "2012-07-12T10:05:22Z")
Let’s see: [ul] [li]Kim was ordered by Daddy-Kim not to go to Japan & visit Disneyland[/li][li]Kim was banned from banging his pop-tart GF by Daddy-Kim[/li][li]Hi Opal[/li][/ul] Now, Kim gets live Disney & trots out his Red Guard Madonna-be in public. He’s saying : “Daddy-Kim’s dead, & I can do what I want! WHHHEEEEE!” I predict a coup. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/14 "2012-07-12T11:08:01Z")
That was a different brother that went to Japan Disney. He lives in China now. I generally agree with the “More Human Face” idea behind his new leadership. Daddy and Granddad never showed their wives in public (and had legions of sex slaves) and were all about the glorious hardcore always serious dictatorship. Grandson is trying to show a more human and compassionate face to his people and appears to be working to make some aspects of their lives (just not the political or economic ones) more pleasant. He does need to start slow and, unfortunately, throw a lot incredibly stupid hardcore anti-American bones to the old guard, or they’ll get rid of him (cough _car accident_ cough). Sadly, it will probably take him 20 years for all those guys to die off and be replaced by his people. But that doesn’t mean I expect any sort of radical change out of NK in my lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/15 "2012-07-25T13:29:21Z")
Lil’ Kim has apparently married the woman, or at least a woman, [according to this AP Story](http://news.yahoo.com/nkorean-state-tv-says-leader-kim-jong-un-123248174.html). She has a different name than the woman named in the OP story – hard to say whether he found another woman on short notice, or whether she was misidentified in the original story. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/16 "2012-07-25T13:35:29Z")
Perhaps “Secretariat” doesn’t translate well from Korean. > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Lil’ Kim has apparently married the woman, or at least a woman, [according to this AP Story](http://news.yahoo.com/nkorean-state-tv-says-leader-kim-jong-un-123248174.html). Somewhere, there’s a pony that’s crying… ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/17 "2012-07-25T13:44:02Z")
North Korea: If Organized Crime Was Used as a Model to Run a Country ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/18 "2012-07-25T14:36:54Z")
[According to this story](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/world/asia/north-korean-leader-marries-reports-say.html), it is the same woman who he’s been photographed with several times over the last few months. No explanation of why a different name, though, ---
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/19 "2012-07-26T02:43:06Z")
How do you even have a hit single in North Korea? Do they even allow the sale of music in that country, and how many people could legitimately afford to buy it? Or is “hit songs” a euphemism for “it’s what the government tells people they would like”? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831/20 "2012-07-26T02:51:39Z")
They distribute the recordings as wax disks that eventually get used as candles when the artist falls out of official favor. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-pop-star-the-new-kims-new-squeeze/627831.md?page=2)