# North Korean top general purged — more

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 10, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979 "2013-12-10T15:10:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/81 "2013-12-25T12:58:39Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> With the appointment of Un as the new dictator I guess there was hope there would be reforms.

Un? That’s not his name. His last name is Kim and his first name is Jong-un (going by the North’s romanization)/Jeong-eun (going by the South’s romanization). There is no middle name.

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/82 "2013-12-26T07:18:56Z")

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IIRC, the first round of purges _were_ of hard-line military (including the fellow given an opportunity to catch an incoming mortar round).  
That, and much of the business were removed from military control and given to Party officials (don’t know if this was how the uncle got his hands in the jar).

Jong-Un is not stupid enough to seriously think he could win a war - and since he has made it obvious that he is NOT going to play nice with the South, he is facing a South President who has promised a 10-to-1 retaliation of anything he does militarily.

Maybe the next time they announce a public execution in Pyon… (NK Capital), maybe we should send a cruise missile in to take out not only the condemned, but the executioner(s) and the Official’s viewing stand.

How difficult would it be to arrange a fireworks display of the American flag over the execution grounds?

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/83 "2013-12-26T07:31:36Z")

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Oh -

Perhaps we should point out that fat boy was 3rd in line for the job - he was NEVER expected to become top dog.  
Son #1 got busted trying to get into Disneyland Japan on a forged (don’t remember the country) passport.  
Son #2 was judged as too “weak” or “womanly” - yes, this is thought to mean gay.

And, bringing up the rear…

He may just not realize why dad and grandad never spent that perfectly good gold - instead counterfeiting US currency and washing it through friendly banks.

I wonder if those banks are still welcoming NK’s business, or even if they still are in business - if any were Chinese, they are probably not doing business with NK now.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/84 "2013-12-26T11:27:58Z")

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> [@usedtobe](#):
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> Pyon… (NK Capital)

평양 (Korean writing)  
Pyongyang (McCune-Reischauer)  
Pyeongyang (Revised Romanization)

Wiki and/or Google: less than 10 seconds.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/85 "2013-12-27T00:55:44Z")

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> [@usedtobe](#):
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> Maybe the next time they announce a public execution in Pyon… (NK Capital), maybe we should send a cruise missile in to take out not only the condemned, but the executioner(s) and the Official’s viewing stand.
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> How difficult would it be to arrange a fireworks display of the American flag over the execution grounds?

Why would an internal execution justify a US strike? And why risk a Chinese response?

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/86 "2013-12-27T02:53:15Z")

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President Park (ROK) made mention that “We” (either ROK or ROK + US) cpuld fly a missle into “Their” (Kim or any DPRK site) window.

He is back to threatening war at any un-announced time. Maybe a timely reminder while signalling a growing concern of the DPRK’s continuing descent into chaos.

Kim’s being erratic, threatening all"

> **[Kim Jong-un's Erratic Behavior Threatens Us All](http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/12/18/2013121801758.html)**
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> North Korea on Tuesday marked the second anniversary of the death of former lead..

Kim threatening “sudden war”

> **[Kim Jong-un Warns of Sudden War](http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/12/26/2013122600755.html)**
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> North Korean leader Kim Jong-un on Wednesday warned that war could break out "wi..

Again, Chosen is a ROK news organization, one which appears reliable

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/87 "2013-12-27T05:29:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Why would an internal execution justify a US strike? And why risk a Chinese response?

And what happens in NK if Kim and his top generals suddenly die?

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/88 "2013-12-27T08:16:20Z")

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3-way race to secure nuclear materials

Chinese soldiers now practicing interception of unwanted immigrants on the NK border find out just how good they are as 10 million NK choose between “Friend” China and “Puppet of Satan” ROK.

Or, eldest son suddenly becomes the Hero and new “Supreme Commander” after it is revealed that “Dog for All Eternity” Jong-Un had created false charges and tried to usurp power. Luckily, our Great Friend China used their missile to free us from his Evil Intentions".

At this point, the poor slobs don’t know what to believe except that water parks and ski resorts do nothing for their empty bellies, and nice people do not kill their uncles.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/89 "2014-01-03T04:06:10Z")

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I think we’ve attained DefCon: Commodus here:

[A Chinese “mouthpiece” news outlet in HK reports that Kim’s uncle was stripped naked and eaten alive by starving dogs, under Kim’s personal supervision.](http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/asia-report/china/story/jangs-execution-bodes-ill-china-20131224)

It may be sensationalist, but who knows? In any case, Kim seems to be giving China an unforeseen and deliberately orchestrated “fuck you” to China, by ripping Their Man In Pyongyang to pieces, possibly literally.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/90 "2014-01-03T09:21:28Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/91 "2014-01-03T15:57:21Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> I think we’ve attained DefCon: Commodus here:
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> [A Chinese “mouthpiece” news outlet in HK reports that Kim’s uncle was stripped naked and eaten alive by starving dogs, under Kim’s personal supervision.](http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/asia-report/china/story/jangs-execution-bodes-ill-china-20131224)
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> It may be sensationalist, but who knows? In any case, Kim seems to be giving China an unforeseen and deliberately orchestrated “fuck you” to China, by ripping Their Man In Pyongyang to pieces, possibly literally.

Say, wasn’t this the Kim people thought would be more progressive because he went to school in Switzerland and had lots of Western exposure? I’d shudder to think what he would have done had he not been so progressive.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/92 "2014-01-03T16:26:19Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> [A Chinese “mouthpiece” news outlet in HK reports that Kim’s uncle was stripped naked and eaten alive by starving dogs, under Kim’s personal supervision.](http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/asia-report/china/story/jangs-execution-bodes-ill-china-20131224)

In North Korea, dogs eat you!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/93 "2014-01-03T16:41:10Z")

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Man, that country has really gone to the dogs!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/94 "2014-01-03T17:08:41Z")

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Well, at least somebody’s eating.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/95 "2014-01-03T17:10:00Z")

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We’re both going to hell!

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/96 "2014-01-03T17:21:19Z")

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“When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news.”

Or maybe not. 😉

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/97 "2014-01-03T17:35:34Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> We’re both going to hell!

Kim, on the other hand, has Scriptural justification - [Matthew 15:27](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+15:27&version=NIV).

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/98 "2014-01-03T22:58:51Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> I think we’ve attained DefCon: Commodus here:
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> [A Chinese “mouthpiece” news outlet in HK reports that Kim’s uncle was stripped naked and eaten alive by starving dogs, under Kim’s personal supervision.](http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/asia-report/china/story/jangs-execution-bodes-ill-china-20131224)
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> It may be sensationalist, but who knows? In any case, Kim seems to be giving China an unforeseen and deliberately orchestrated “fuck you” to China, by ripping Their Man In Pyongyang to pieces, possibly literally.

What are the odds that he actually did this? Is it more likely that he just had somebody put a bullet in his brain, and then made up that story? Or that he actually did it?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/99 "2014-01-03T23:18:27Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> In North Korea, dogs eat you!
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

**And** vice-versa . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-korean-top-general-purged-more/675979/100 "2014-01-03T23:19:38Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Say, wasn’t this the Kim people thought would be more progressive because he went to school in Switzerland and had lots of Western exposure? I’d shudder to think what he would have done had he not been so progressive.

Something involving fondue.

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