# North/South/East/West \[city name\], but a different city than \[city name\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 29, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958 "2024-07-29T16:35:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/121 "2024-08-05T17:45:00Z")
> [@doreen](#): > > > [@DPRK](#): > > > > A bunch of cities are split across two different jurisdictions > > I’m not really sure what this means - usually, it’s actually two different cities with the same name in two jurisdictions. There is, in fact, an instance of a single city split across two jurisdictions, albeit not an international border. That city is Lloydminster AB/SK. It’s a single city with a single government. The entire city is considered part of both provinces. > **[Lloydminster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloydminster)** > > Lloydminster is a city in Canada which has the unusual geographic distinction of straddling the provincial border between Alberta and Saskatchewan. The city is incorporated by both provinces as a single city with a single municipal administration. > Located in the heart of Treaty 6, Lloydminster is the traditional homeland of the Plains Cree, Wood Cree, Dene, Saulteaux and homeland of the Métis. > Intended to be an exclusively British utopian settlement centred on the idea of sobriety, Lloydmins... ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/122 "2024-08-05T20:47:18Z")
North Kansas City, MO is a municipal enclave, completely surrounded by, but not a part of, Kansas City, MO. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/123 "2024-08-05T21:49:26Z")
Since borders have come up, there’s one instance where the cities are in three states: Sioux City IA, North Sioux City SD, South Sioux City NE. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/124 "2024-08-06T00:52:59Z")
> [@doreen](#): > > I’m not really sure what this means - usually, it’s actually two different cities with the same name in two jurisdictions. I meant the case when there are, politically, two cities, with two different mayors, but you go there and it is a single agglomeration with the border (possibly an international border) just running along the the middle of the sidewalk, right through a building, etc. There are not two disjunct urban centers. In that sort of situation, the two cities are more likely to have the same name, or pretty close, rather than North/South/East/West X. (Not sure how officially official East/West Berlin was as a name.) If it’s really one city, as in @dtlique 's example, or e.g. the village of Ghajar in Israel/Lebanon (that one is no city, though, just a little village caught straddling the border so it’s not precisely the same type of thing) then obviously you would not expect multiple divergent official names. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/125 "2024-08-06T01:49:21Z")
If you want really weird (that word has been coming up a lot lately) situation of a town on a border, you can’t beat [Baarle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle) in the Netherlands/Blegium. The two parts are known as Baarle-Hertog (Belgium) and Baarle-Nassau (Netherlands). ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/126 "2024-08-08T18:56:08Z")
On a recent trip through Pennsylvania, I spotted the town name “North East”, and was reminded of the town of the same name in Maryland. it’s a pity there are no suburbs of either. East North East, or maybe North North East, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958/127 "2024-08-14T14:19:00Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > And Newburgh NY doesn’t seem to have ever lost its H. Neither has Newburgh Heights, Ohio, a suburb of Cleveland. Also in Cuyahoga County, the city of South Euclid is south of the city of Euclid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-south-east-west-city-name-but-a-different-city-than-city-name/1004958.md?page=6)