# Northern English foods. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075 "2006-09-09T17:15:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/21 "2006-09-10T00:18:42Z")
**Dominic** : Why bother with the Yorkshire pudding? You’d have a perfectly pleasant meal of bangers and mash and onion gravy without it. You don’t feel that you were carbing it up too much? ---
**Author:** ![elelator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba8739/32.png) [@elelator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/22 "2006-09-10T05:08:00Z")
_You fill up my senses Like a gallon of **Magnet** Like a packet of Woodbine Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a **greasy chip butty** Like Sheffield United Come fill me again_ Note: one of those items is significantly less appealing than the other. It’s up to you to figure out which is which. Note 2: How a team as brilliant as the Blades ended up with such a disgusting chant is beyond me but that’s football for you, eh? ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/23 "2006-09-10T06:07:04Z")
How could anyone from Wigan not include… Tripe, with vinegar in every 'ole Tripe and Onions Cow Heel Black peas and vinegar Incidentally the only black pudding worth eating are those from Bury. Buy one piping hot on Bury market, smear it with HOT English mustard, you’ll never believe how good they are. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/24 "2006-09-10T06:08:57Z")
[QUOTE=elelator] _You fill up my senses Like a gallon of **Magnet** Like a packet of Woodbine Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a **greasy chip butty** Like Sheffield United Come fill me again_ Note: one of those items is significantly less appealing than the other. It’s up to you to figure out which is which. Note 2: How a team as brilliant as the Blades ended up with such a disgusting chant is beyond me but that’s football for you, eh? [/QUOTE] I figured it out…it’s Sheffield Utd..right? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/25 "2006-09-10T06:30:32Z")
This whole thread is puzzling me. Are you saying northern England has its own distinctive cuisine? As opposed to southern England, western, england, central england, etc.? How can such tiny areas have their own cuisines? Hell, the state I live in, Georgia, which is bigger than the whole of England by 9,000 square miles, doesn’t have regional cuisines. There may be some miniscule differences between the Appalachian north and the sothern plains, but I don’t know of any. The only regionally unique dish in Georgia would probably be [Brunswick stew](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_stew) but there are debates about whether it really originated in Georgia. Would these regional dishes have orginated because of England’s longer history, with relatively little travel during the Dark Ages? Are these ancient dishes? Or is there some other explanation? Preferably, a more sinister one? ---
**Author:** ![elelator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba8739/32.png) [@elelator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/26 "2006-09-10T07:43:23Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] I figured it out…it’s Sheffield Utd..right? 🙂 [/QUOTE] One Neil Warnock…there’s only one Neil Warnock… ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/27 "2006-09-10T07:50:28Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] This whole thread is puzzling me. Are you saying northern England has its own distinctive cuisine? As opposed to southern England, western, england, central england, etc.? [/QUOTE] No, that would be silly. It divides into much smaller areas than that. I dare say there are people in Manchester who don’t even know what a stotty cake is. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/28 "2006-09-10T07:51:15Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] Would these regional dishes have orginated because of England’s longer history, with relatively little travel during the Dark Ages? [/QUOTE] Yes, and not just in the dark ages. The relative homogeneity of an American state is because of wholesale immigration. Britain’s localised cultural features have survived thanks to far less internal migration. (Think of the dozens, perhaps hundreds, of identifiable local accents.) On the other hand, I don’t think anyone will claim that there’s a distinctive regional cuisine as such to be found anywhere in the country, but there’s certainly dishes and foods with a specific local identity. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/29 "2006-09-10T08:09:48Z")
Trot and kip with quince preserve. A nice [Pigeon Pie](Trot and kip with quince preserve.). ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/30 "2006-09-10T08:43:56Z")
You know, I have _absolutely no clue_ what any of you are talking about. Except maybe for the mashed potatoes. Guess I’d better get a-Googling. I may be missing out on potential deliciousness. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/31 "2006-09-10T09:34:38Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] This whole thread is puzzling me. Are you saying northern England has its own distinctive cuisine? As opposed to southern England, western, england, central england, etc.? How can such tiny areas have their own cuisines? Hell, the state I live in, Georgia, which is bigger than the whole of England by 9,000 square miles, doesn’t have regional cuisines. There may be some miniscule differences between the Appalachian north and the sothern plains, but I don’t know of any. The only regionally unique dish in Georgia would probably be [Brunswick stew](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_stew) but there are debates about whether it really originated in Georgia. Would these regional dishes have orginated because of England’s longer history, with relatively little travel during the Dark Ages? Are these ancient dishes? Or is there some other explanation? Preferably, a more sinister one? [/QUOTE] Indeed we in the Norf of Merrie England have our own cuisine. Darn sarf they actually eat the following disgusting _foodstuffs_ (I use the term loosely y’unnerstand… Jellied Eels…imagine swallowing snail slime :eek: Winkles… tiny little farting things dug out of shells with fucking PIN Whelks…bit like chewing an ear, only tougher Ooop Norf such stuff would be cast aside like a sodden glove. No It’s fair to say that we poor Norverners have developed a more discerning palate which is why we consume vast quantities of cow heel and tripe and cooked elder 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/32 "2006-09-10T09:36:44Z")
[QUOTE=elelator] One Neil Warnock…there’s only one Neil Warnock… [/QUOTE] Now Stuart Pearce I’ve heard of but who the hell is this Warlock 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elelator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba8739/32.png) [@elelator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/33 "2006-09-10T10:53:55Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Now Stuart Pearce I’ve heard of but who the hell is this Warlock 🙂 [/QUOTE] I did say there was only one Colin. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/34 "2006-09-10T11:31:52Z")
Mushy peas! ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/35 "2006-09-10T11:36:43Z")
[QUOTE=Ukulele Ike] **Dominic** : Why bother with the Yorkshire pudding? You’d have a perfectly pleasant meal of bangers and mash and onion gravy without it. You don’t feel that you were carbing it up too much? [/QUOTE] Because it tastes good? It’s not something I made up, it’s a traditional dish. You can buy it as a ready meal in any supermarket. > [@](#): > > How could anyone from Wigan not include… > > Tripe, with vinegar in every 'ole > > Tripe and Onions > > Cow Heel > > Black peas and vinegar > > Incidentally the only black pudding worth eating are those from Bury. > > Buy one piping hot on Bury market, smear it with HOT English mustard, you’ll never believe how good they are. Because after my Grandma died nobody actually eats any of that stuff any more 😃 You’re right, I forgot the black peas, although I thought they were only eaten on Bonfire Night. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/36 "2006-09-10T14:23:01Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] Because it tastes good? It’s not something I made up, it’s a traditional dish. You can buy it as a ready meal in any supermarket. Because after my Grandma died nobody actually eats any of that stuff any more 😃 You’re right, I forgot the black peas, although I thought they were only eaten on Bonfire Night. [/QUOTE] I think it’s Parkin that’s only eaten on Bonfire night, that and half cooked spuds done in the bonfire 😃 ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/37 "2006-09-10T14:25:03Z")
[QUOTE=Martha] Mushy peas! [/QUOTE] You mean _Chip Shop_ mushies of course and not those abominations they sell in tins…yuck :mad: ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/38 "2006-09-10T14:26:29Z")
[QUOTE=elelator] I did say there was only one Colin. 😛 [/QUOTE] Of course there is, the old master himself, Colin Bell ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/39 "2006-09-10T15:14:05Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] I think it’s Parkin that’s only eaten on Bonfire night, that and half cooked spuds done in the bonfire 😃 [/QUOTE] There was parkin on the dessert menu of the restuarant I had lunch in yesterday. I’d never heard of it, but it sounds amazing (especially served with golden syrup and ice cream as this was). Sadly I was full by then and I couldn’t persuade my wife to order it so I could have a bite… ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/40 "2006-09-10T15:15:36Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] It’s fair to say that we poor Norverners have developed a more discerning palate which is why we consume vast quantities of cow heel and tripe and **cooked elder** 🙂 [/QUOTE] That explanation certainly seems sinister enough… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075.md?page=3)