# Northern English foods. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075 "2006-09-09T17:15:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/41 "2006-09-10T17:13:04Z")
Elder is (I think) cooked cows udder. Nope I’ve never tasted it and have no intention of ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/42 "2006-09-10T17:19:00Z")
[QUOTE=Antigen] You know, I have _absolutely no clue_ what any of you are talking about. Except maybe for the mashed potatoes. Guess I’d better get a-Googling. I may be missing out on potential deliciousness. [/QUOTE] Google away my friend but a word of warning… The aforementioned culinary delights what? are OK, well some of them are. Stay well away from.. Jellied Eels Whelks Winkles Cow Heel Black peas. Unless of course you have the constitution of an Ox and a mild death wish ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/43 "2006-09-10T17:28:27Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] How can such tiny areas have their own cuisines? [/QUOTE] This is not necessarily confined to England. Behold the South Carolina barbeque distribution map: > **[USC NEWS & EVENTS - USC News & Events | University of South Carolina](https://sc.edu/uofsc/index.php)** > > Find out what is going on at the University of South Carolina. Events, news stories, social media channels, this is where it's at. - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/44 "2006-09-10T17:38:56Z")
[QUOTE=Tamerlane] This is not necessarily confined to England. Behold the South Carolina barbeque distribution map: > **[USC NEWS & EVENTS - USC News & Events | University of South Carolina](https://sc.edu/uofsc/index.php)** > > Find out what is going on at the University of South Carolina. Events, news stories, social media channels, this is where it's at. - Tamerlane [/QUOTE] Easily explained. South Carolina elected Strom Thurmond to office right through to the year 2000. Arguably still in the Dark Ages. Much like Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/45 "2006-09-10T17:51:20Z")
[QUOTE=jjimm] There was parkin on the dessert menu of the restuarant I had lunch in yesterday. I’d never heard of it, but it sounds amazing (especially served with golden syrup and ice cream as this was). Sadly I was full by then and I couldn’t persuade my wife to order it so I could have a bite… [/QUOTE] You’d never heard of parkin? Is it a northern food? > [@](#): > > I think it’s Parkin that’s only eaten on Bonfire night, that and half cooked spuds done in the bonfire The only time I’ve ever had black peas was at bonfire. Maybe because it was in winter. Parkin and treacle are more common anyway. ---
**Author:** ![seosamh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@seosamh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seosamh)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/46 "2006-09-10T20:03:29Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Elder is (I think) cooked cows udder. Nope I’ve never tasted it and have no intention of [/QUOTE] The sister-in-law is from Sheffield and absolutely loves that stuff. But calls it “bag”. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/47 "2006-09-10T20:42:16Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Indeed we in the Norf of Merrie England have our own cuisine. Darn sarf they actually eat the following disgusting _foodstuffs_ (I use the term loosely y’unnerstand… Jellied Eels…imagine swallowing snail slime :eek: … [/QUOTE] I thought that was something Terry Pratchett made up. It certainly sounded like something fictional. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/48 "2006-09-10T21:38:45Z")
No, jellied eels are real. They are a stereotypical Cockney delicacy. How many people actually eat them is another matter. Not me, certainly. In the same vein as mushy peas, which I’ve opccasionally had funny looks asking for in southern chip shops, there’s also the bizarre northern practice of serving chips with gravy. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/49 "2006-09-10T22:09:00Z")
Urgh, chip shop gravy. Chips are far better peawep or served with a babby’s head 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/50 "2006-09-11T03:20:33Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Cow Heel [/QUOTE] 😕 They don’t **have** heels! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/51 "2006-09-11T03:21:34Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Trot and kip with quince preserve. A nice [Pigeon Pie](Trot and kip with quince preserve.). [/QUOTE] Linky no worky. And what’s “trot and kip”? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/52 "2006-09-11T03:26:39Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] You’re right, I forgot the black peas, although I thought they were only eaten on Bonfire Night. [/QUOTE] Same thing as [black-eyed peas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-eyed_peas)? (In some parts of the U.S., traditionally eaten on New Year’s.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/53 "2006-09-11T03:37:08Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] Urgh, chip shop gravy. Chips are far better peawep or served with a babby’s head 😃 [/QUOTE] 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/54 "2006-09-11T04:08:10Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] 😕 They don’t **have** heels! [/QUOTE] The flashy ones do and of course they have matching bags. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/55 "2006-09-11T05:25:50Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] Urgh, chip shop gravy. Chips are far better peawep or served with a babby’s head 😃 [/QUOTE] I know what a babbys head is but what’s **peawep** 😕 ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/56 "2006-09-11T06:27:05Z")
[Pigeon Pie](http://thefoody.com/mrsbpoultry/pigeonpie.html) (I love the part of the recipe where you stick three pigeon feet out of the top of the pie!) The trot and kip, well… it was a whoosh. I have no idea what it might be, but they would probably eat it in the North of England. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/57 "2006-09-11T07:16:59Z")
My Grandpa used to make [Brawn](http://recipes.epicurean.com/recipe/16948/granny-morgan's-brawn.html). I never got to try any though (He died before I knew him.). My family were probably from Wales, so I guess that’s not really the North of England. Ah well, just another delicacy to add to this English Pantry. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/58 "2006-09-11T07:46:36Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Black peas and vinegar [/QUOTE] Ahhh Carlin peas. I remember staying with my grandma near Durham and being served these on ‘Carlin Sunday’ - at the time, nobody could convince us that the adults were’nt just trying to get us to eat rabbit poo. Not sure how much of it is myth, but IIRC legend has it that a cargo ship carrying dried legumes (intended for animal fodder) foundered somewhere on the North Sea coast and that the hungry locals collected basketfuls of the small dark brown peas from the shore, washed and cooked them, serving them with vinegar to balance the taste of the residual salt from the seawater. According to the story, the captain’s surname name was Carlin. I read this in a seed catalogue or gardening magazine somewhere, but cannot find anything online to support the story at all - it may be complete bunk. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/59 "2006-09-11T07:49:51Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Same thing as [black-eyed peas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-eyed_peas)? (In some parts of the U.S., traditionally eaten on New Year’s.) [/QUOTE] [No](http://i1.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/93/37/c8_1_b.JPG) - Carlin Peas look like rabbit turds. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/60 "2006-09-11T08:45:07Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] Not sure how much of it is myth, but IIRC legend has it that a cargo ship carrying dried legumes (intended for animal fodder) foundered somewhere on the North Sea coast and that the hungry locals collected basketfuls of the small dark brown peas from the shore, washed and cooked them, serving them with vinegar to balance the taste of the residual salt from the seawater. According to the story, the captain’s surname name was Carlin. I read this in a seed catalogue or gardening magazine somewhere, but cannot find anything online to support the story at all - it may be complete bunk. [/QUOTE] The story I were told as a bairn was more like [this one.](http://carlinpeas.tripod.com/id9.html) [He’s got a recipe up, an all.](http://carlinpeas.tripod.com/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075.md?page=4)