# Northern English foods. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075 "2006-09-09T17:15:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/81 "2006-09-11T16:26:00Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] eee laddie tha’ widna ken nary a smudge of eet [/QUOTE] _swoon_ ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/82 "2006-09-11T16:31:23Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] _swoon_ [/QUOTE] Didna ken my sessing lassie? ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/83 "2006-09-11T16:34:08Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] What sort of “meat pies”? (When I first heard of a “pork pie” I assumed it was like a chicken pot pie but made with pork; apparently it’s something very different, a rather gelatinous dish served cold.) [/QUOTE] Steak & kidney pies, and similar, made using an industrial-strength pastry and extra-gloopy gravy for the sauce. And yes, [pork pies](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pork_pie.jpg) are something very different, with a spiritual home in [Leicestershire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melton_Mowbray). ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/84 "2006-09-11T16:39:11Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Didna ken my sessing lassie? [/QUOTE] Oh, I ken. I ken a lot. I work at Ren Faires, where American guys try to talk like you and fail miserably. But it makes me swooney anyway. Say somethin’ else. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/85 "2006-09-11T16:46:06Z")
[Here’s](http://www.hollandspies.co.uk/products/chipshop/index.aspx) a sample of the sort of pies you get in chip shops. The one on the left is a pudding rather than a pie. Their version of the suspiciously vague-sounding “meat” pie contains a generous 11.5% beef and 9% pork. What the remaining 80% consists of, I don’t want to know. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/86 "2006-09-11T16:47:04Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] Oh, I ken. I ken a lot. I work at Ren Faires, where American guys try to talk like you and fail miserably. But it makes me swooney anyway. Say somethin’ else. 😃 [/QUOTE] Sitha hen, thas pooten me aboot…isna tha? ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/87 "2006-09-11T16:51:36Z")
This British?American accent appeal is strange. I used to go to a pub where one of the barmen was from Idaho (I think) and the girls used to stand drooling at his accent…mind you he was one handsome geezer I must confess. Being straight I never fancied him but the girls used to queue up. Come to think of it I do believe we Brits, hated him 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/88 "2006-09-11T16:58:01Z")
[QUOTE=GorillaMan] Steak & kidney pies, and similar, made using an industrial-strength pastry and extra-gloopy gravy for the sauce. And yes, [pork pies](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pork_pie.jpg) are something very different, with a spiritual home in [Leicestershire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melton_Mowbray). [/QUOTE] Meat and potato pie is the local delicacy. Cheese and onion is also popular. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/89 "2006-09-11T16:59:10Z")
[QUOTE=Usram] [Here’s](http://www.hollandspies.co.uk/products/chipshop/index.aspx) a sample of the sort of pies you get in chip shops. The one on the left is a pudding rather than a pie. Their version of the suspiciously vague-sounding “meat” pie contains a generous 11.5% beef and 9% pork. What the remaining 80% consists of, I don’t want to know. [/QUOTE] The one on the left is a babby’s 'ed. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/90 "2006-09-11T17:02:43Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] This British?American accent appeal is strange. [/QUOTE] Isn’t it though? I suspect some genetic thing - like the sound of a voice from “far away” is a real attraction in a primordial “Ooh! New genes!” kind of way. This whole thread, with bizarre sounding names and a bunch of slang thrown in that I can only half follow, has got my nethers buzzin’. 😃 \*Any \*accent does it for me, but the more exotic, the better. Northern Brits are almost unintelligable at times, while still speaking English, so they make me the swooniest. Plus, in my head, you sound just like Christopher Eccleston with a splash of Ewan MacGregor, so there you go. 😉 But no, I can’t imagine being turned on by an Iowa accent. _shudder_ ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/91 "2006-09-11T17:04:20Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] But no, I can’t imagine being turned on by an Iowa accent. _shudder_ [/QUOTE] Nor can we 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/92 "2006-09-11T17:14:39Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] BrainGlutton, a babby’s head is a suet pudding. It looks like a baby’s head. [/QUOTE] “Suet pudding” . . . is that Brit slang for “glob of lard”? You can’t even **get** [suet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suet) in American supermarkets, except as a bird food – I’ve tried (some old-fashioned chili recipes call for it). But somebody actually went and made a **dessert** out of this stuff?! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/93 "2006-09-11T17:17:35Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] Isn’t it though? I suspect some genetic thing - like the sound of a voice from “far away” is a real attraction in a primordial “Ooh! New genes!” kind of way. This whole thread, with bizarre sounding names and a bunch of slang thrown in that I can only half follow, has got my nethers buzzin’. 😃 \*Any \*accent does it for me, but the more exotic, the better. Northern Brits are almost unintelligable at times, while still speaking English, so they make me the swooniest. Plus, in my head, you sound just like Christopher Eccleston with a splash of Ewan MacGregor, so there you go. 😉 But no, I can’t imagine being turned on by an Iowa accent. _shudder_ [/QUOTE] Is there such a thing as an Idaho or Iowa accent? I think the Scottish accents, like Billy Boyd’s and Craig Ferguson’s, make me the swooniest. Oh and chowder, don’t let the name fool ya, I’m a lassie. Now say something else cute. _wink_ ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/94 "2006-09-11T17:19:49Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] “Suet pudding” . . . is that Brit slang for “glob of lard”? You can’t even **get** [suet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suet) in American supermarkets, except as a bird food – I’ve tried (some old-fashioned chili recipes call for it). But somebody actually went and made a **dessert** out of this stuff?! :eek: [/QUOTE] Look at **Usram** ’s link. It’s the first pie on the left. It isn’t a sweet dish, it’s filled with minced meat and gravy. You can’t get suet in the US? How do you make dumplings then? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/95 "2006-09-11T17:21:12Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] “Suet pudding” . . . is that Brit slang for “glob of lard”? You can’t even **get** [suet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suet) in American supermarkets, except as a bird food – I’ve tried (some old-fashioned chili recipes call for it). But somebody actually went and made a **dessert** out of this stuff?! :eek: [/QUOTE] Just because it says “pudding” doesn’t mean it’s a dessert. Remember they have Yorkshire pudding which is a savory dish and is probably more akin to a popover than what we Americans think of as a pudding. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/96 "2006-09-11T17:23:54Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] Look at **Usram** ’s link. It’s the first pie on the left. It isn’t a sweet dish, it’s filled with minced meat and gravy. You can’t get suet in the US? How do you make dumplings then? [/QUOTE] Usually we use shortening - artificial suet made from partially hydrogenated vegetable oils. And it’s just as nasty as it sounds: [Crisco](http://www.crisco.com/about/prod_info.asp?groupID=17&catId=63) ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/97 "2006-09-11T17:25:42Z")
[QUOTE=seosamh] The sister-in-law is from Sheffield and absolutely loves that stuff. But calls it “bag”. [/QUOTE] Which led me to search for udderly fantastic recipes- I should have stayed home on this one. I found a recipe for [Udder Eclairs](http://bertc.com/cow_udders.htm). The first recipe I have ever come across that lists **Nair** depilatory cream as one of its ingredients! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/98 "2006-09-11T17:30:43Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Is there such a thing as an Idaho or Iowa accent? [/QUOTE] :smack: I just noticed \*\*chowder \*\*wrote “Idaho” and I made it “Iowa” in my head. Sorry 'bout that. But yes, of course they have accents, or regional dialects, to be more precise. Everyone does who uses verbal speech (and I understand that even sign language has dialect.) You probably don’t recognize it as far off of the “generic Midwestern US”, but one who studies such things does. [QUOTE=devilsknew] I found a recipe for Udder Eclairs. [/QUOTE] Thank you, **devilsknew** , you just made my diet a little easier. I don’t think I’ll eat for a week now. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/99 "2006-09-11T17:38:10Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Which led me to search for udderly fantastic recipes- I should have stayed home on this one. I found a recipe for [Udder Eclairs](http://bertc.com/cow_udders.htm). The first recipe I have ever come across that lists **Nair** depilatory cream as one of its ingredients! :eek: [/QUOTE] When am I going to learn to go with my first impulse and not click links like that? ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075/100 "2006-09-11T17:50:01Z")
Yanno this guys accent was kinda like…“Yeeeeesss ma’am and what’ll I get for you terrrrrday?” When he was talking to the ladies. To us mere men it was “Yeah whaddya want?”. **Wile E** So aanyway ‘ere a wus wi’ t’head 'un ramjampakful saarmun can sithee, by 'eck lass twas fur 'oggin. Shall we get a room? 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/northern-english-foods/372075.md?page=6)