# Norwegian Women Raped in UAE; She is Sentenced to 16 Months **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 19, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989 "2013-07-19T23:41:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/101 "2013-07-22T14:06:50Z")
Good news, she’s been [pardoned.](http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/22/world/meast/uae-norway-rape-controversy/index.html?hpt=hp_c2) ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/102 "2013-07-22T14:29:35Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > You must be delusional if you don’t see the same exact anti woman mentality in conservatives the world over, the name of their religion makes zero difference. If your argument is that all religions are similar in their potential for misogyny, then we can agree. But why the assumption that a critical statement acknowledging the reality of Islam is a positive evaluation about any other religion? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/103 "2013-07-22T14:48:13Z")
It’s a wash. Whatever happened in Dubai stays in Dubai. > [@](#): > > Dalelv is currently still in Dubai but is expected to travel in a day or two, Imerslund said. > > Dalelv’s lawyer, Mahmoud Azab Abu Gareda, told CNN that the sheikh’s pardon is “effectively a royal decree,” which wipes the slate clean, leaving no record of her conviction. > > This means that the alleged perpetrator, who was charged with public intoxication and having sex outside of marriage, also walks free, he said. > > Dalelv has already dropped her case against him, so it will not be pursued further, he said. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/104 "2013-07-22T14:53:10Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s a wash. Whatever happened in Dubai stays in Dubai. It’s a wash in the sense that a woman who may have been raped doesn’t have to go to prison and the rapist also goes free. It’s the best outcome given what’s happened so far, but it’s still pretty awful. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/105 "2013-07-22T15:00:59Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Give us a few generations of Todd Akins in charge and christian law would be exactly the same. You must be delusional if you don’t see the same exact anti woman mentality in conservatives the world over, the name of their religion makes zero difference. It doesn’t even require religion, I’ve heard “women, a broken leg and in the kitchen” from many a proudly-left-voting atheist. Last time, the other woman in the room said “gosh, and you say you don’t know why your wife left you? I do!” Religion is just a handy excuse. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/106 "2013-07-22T15:08:55Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > It doesn’t even require religion, I’ve heard “women, a broken leg and in the kitchen” from many a proudly-left-voting atheist. Last time, the other woman in the room said “gosh, and you say you don’t know why your wife left you? I do!” Religion is just a handy excuse. Which is why their particular brand doesn’t matter, what matters is that in some countries they are in charge. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/107 "2013-07-22T16:08:47Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I don’t understand why any woman would voluntarily go to a country under sharia law. Those laws are reprehensible but they are the law. You should not even bother accusing someone of rape unless there happened to be four male bystanders just watching, which basically means your vagina is going to be up for grabs for anyone who feels like taking it. Don’t fucking go there, it’s the only solution. Because we don’t feel like letting the terrorists win? Because my mother, grandmother and great grandmother fought long and hard so that I could fully join public life and earn my place at the table in business, and I’m not about to let rapists and their apologists close off avenues for growth and prosperity to my gender. UAE is a big deal in some industries, including my own, and refusing to go there does cut off advancement. It would be a dishonor to all who came before me to let that go unchallenged. The woman involved went through some very shitty experiences, but look at what she’s done to expose the problem and create international pressure. That is how change happens. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/108 "2013-07-22T16:24:23Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Give us a few generations of Todd Akins in charge and christian law would be exactly the same. You must be delusional if you don’t see the same exact anti woman mentality in conservatives the world over, the name of their religion makes zero difference. You would have a point if I had said anything at all about Christianity. I was merely pointing out that as these laws are being observed and enforced NOW by CURRENT Muslim governments, arguing over their origins in Islamic law hundreds of years ago is pointless. Saying it’s “not Islamic law” when it clearly IS Islamic law in SOME Muslim countries because of a hadith that originated hundreds of years ago is ridiculous. So I ridiculed it. That said, of COURSE most Islamic culture is bone deep in sexism and MUCH more virulently so than even our crazed Republican idiots like Tod Akins. Show me a few Western countries that have jailed women for reporting rape, if you please. Your notion that we are a few years away from being as bad as Islamic fundamentalists is ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/109 "2013-07-22T16:25:13Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Which is why their particular brand doesn’t matter, what matters is that in some countries they are in charge. Does it not matter that the countries where they are in charge are almost entirely all of the same brand? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/110 "2013-07-22T16:30:35Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > Well, the UAE is off my holiday list… > > The place seems to be a loony bin. Dubai is hugely overrated as a place to visit. It’s basically Las Vegas with swarthier locals and less crime and fewer casinos. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/111 "2013-07-22T16:38:40Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Show me a few Western countries that have jailed women for reporting rape, if you please. Your notion that we are a few years away from being as bad as Islamic fundamentalists is ludicrous. I can come up with several Western countries where women would have been jailed if they’d been dumb enough to report rape, just within the last century, but you see, the locals weren’t that dumb and the amount of foreigners was tiny (specially the amount of foreigners who had nationalities, social status and ideologies which would have led them to trust the police). Nowadays we don’t get jailed for reporting rape, but we run the risk of being told that if we wore jeans it wasn’t rape, if we wore a skirt it wasn’t rape, if the non-jeans trousers didn’t get ripped off it wasn’t rape… ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/112 "2013-07-22T16:39:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Dubai is hugely overrated as a place to visit. It’s basically Las Vegas with swarthier locals and less crime and fewer casinos. Abu Dhabi is better. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/113 "2013-07-22T16:41:42Z")
E wry few months there’s a story about how a university or the military has threatened a woman with discipline for reporting rape. There are still people who say that the Steubenville rapists were the victims of the liberal media. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/114 "2013-07-22T16:41:51Z")
Their airport is pretty fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/115 "2013-07-22T16:48:22Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Your notion that we are a few years away from being as bad as Islamic fundamentalists is ludicrous. I said generations, and it is only ludicrous because we would not let it happen. But yes, if conservatives had their way for a good length of time the result would be exactly the same. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/116 "2013-07-22T16:49:32Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > Because we don’t feel like letting the terrorists win? Because my mother, grandmother and great grandmother fought long and hard so that I could fully join public life and earn my place at the table in business, and I’m not about to let rapists and their apologists close off avenues for growth and prosperity to my gender. UAE is a big deal in some industries, including my own, and refusing to go there does cut off advancement. It would be a dishonor to all who came before me to let that go unchallenged. > > The woman involved went through some very shitty experiences, but look at what she’s done to expose the problem and create international pressure. That is how change happens. Not going there seems like the best way of fighting it, UAE wouldn’t be a big deal if so many people didn’t just pretend it is a westernized place and treated it like a backwards hell hole that should be avoided at all costs. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/117 "2013-07-22T17:02:36Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Not going there seems like the best way of fighting it, UAE wouldn’t be a big deal if so many people didn’t just pretend it is a westernized place and treated it like a backwards hell hole that should be avoided at all costs. That might work if we could get the men on board. But money talks and a real boycott is unlikely. Telling women the best response to injustice is to stay at home is not a solution. ---
**Author:** ![smee\_goan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@smee\_goan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smee_goan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/118 "2013-07-22T17:37:03Z")
I see the UAE airplanes all the time here Cleveland, Ohio USA. Those guys spend millions to get good health care to torture women longer :P. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/119 "2013-07-22T18:57:18Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I can come up with several Western countries where women would have been jailed if they’d been dumb enough to report rape, just within the last century, but you see, the locals weren’t that dumb and the amount of foreigners was tiny (specially the amount of foreigners who had nationalities, social status and ideologies which would have led them to trust the police). Tell me about these countries. (Genuinely interested in knowing) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989/120 "2013-07-22T19:20:02Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > Tell me about these countries. (Genuinely interested in knowing) England and Wales for one. Uptil the mid 70’s it was not unknown for rape victims to be called common prostitutes and for them to be arrested. Usually as a tactic to get them to shut up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/norwegian-women-raped-in-uae-she-is-sentenced-to-16-months/663989.md?page=7)