# Nostradamus - sigh **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 25, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210 "2022-09-25T15:35:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/1 "2022-09-25T15:35:00Z")
A 2005 book with fresh interpretations of the old man’s quatrains claims he predicted, “Queen Elizabeth II will die, circa 22, at the age of around 96.” But what I can’t dig up so far is the original wording of the quatrain that has been interpreted. I know it’s a Fox News story but they are just reporting it and it is the original quatrain that I am interested in reading. > **[Nostradamus book sales skyrocket after prediction of Queen Elizabeth II's death](https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/nostradamus-book-sales-skyrocket-prediction-queen-elizabeth-death)** > > A book interpreting the prophecies of Nostradamus is selling out after correctly predicting the death of Queen Elizabeth II. The book claims Charles III will abdicate. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/2 "2022-09-25T15:58:49Z")
Anybody who believes that stuff is a Nostradumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/3 "2022-09-25T16:04:10Z")
> [@mixdenny](#): > > A 2005 book with fresh interpretations of the old man’s quatrains claims he predicted, “Queen Elizabeth II will die, circa 22, at the age of around 96.” But what I can’t dig up so far is the original wording of the quatrain that has been interpreted. I’d lay money that the original wording is vastly less specific about whatever the old goat was predicting. Probably more like “an olde monarch shall die, to much public lamentation.” Also, the quote “Because they disapproved of his divorce” sounds as much like Nostradamus as that homily about friends resembles the words of Shakespeare. I like “Nostradumbasses”. ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/4 "2022-09-25T16:06:09Z")
Snopes has the full details and a full debunking. The quatrain doesn’t even mention a queen. [Did Nostradamus Predict Charles Would Abdicate, Leave Harry the Throne? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nostradamus-king-charles-harry/) ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/5 "2022-09-25T17:23:57Z")
Well, the quatrain that Snopes posted is the one about Harry and William and as usual, is hopelessly vague. Snopes does not show the quatrain about QE dying in 2022. It would be interesting to see it. ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/6 "2022-09-25T18:01:42Z")
Reading’s system was that the quatrain number corresponds to the year. The quatrain in question is [century X, no. 22](https://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/mrg/nosmrg10.htm). Since Reading was therefore claiming that it relates to Charles as King in about 2022, he assumed that his mother would have died at around that time. But even if one is generous and concedes that ‘Le Roy des Isles’ might refer to a British ruler, in the sixteenth century the idea that a divorced English king might have succession problems wasn’t exactly a wild and improbable stab in the dark. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/7 "2022-09-25T18:35:26Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Anybody who believes that stuff is a Nostradumbass. Nostradamus predicted that joke over 500 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/8 "2022-09-25T18:43:00Z")
> [@mixdenny](#): > > But what I can’t dig up so far is the original wording of the quatrain that has been interpreted. I know it’s a Fox News story but they are just reporting it and it is the original quatrain that I am interested in reading. Faux News didn’t provide that information? I am flabbergasted! ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/9 "2022-09-25T19:08:23Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > > [@solost](#): > > > > Anybody who believes that stuff is a Nostradumbass. > > Nostradamus predicted that joke over 500 years ago. Five hundred and some years hence On a message board existing in an ethereal realm Will be posted a juvenile and questionably humorous remark A pun upon this author’s name. ---
**Author:** ![FrenchDunadan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frenchdunadan/32/5449_2.png) [@FrenchDunadan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrenchDunadan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/10 "2022-09-25T19:35:01Z")
As for our old Michel de Nostredame (nicknamed Nostradamus), the french TV had a good research, that hinted the quatrains were in fact not predicting the future, but mocking event of his time, or of recent past. Numerous names and descriptions fits events of the XVI century. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/11 "2022-09-25T20:52:31Z")
Paul Mooney’s “Negrodamus” was often hilarious. Unfortunately, YouTube only seems to have his least funny performances. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/12 "2022-09-25T20:53:33Z")
[quote=“APB, post:6, topic:972210”] Reading’s system was that the quatrain number corresponds to the year. The quatrain in question is century X, no. 22[/quote] Ahh. I was wondering how he came up with such a specific year. And nothing fit for 1622, 1722, 1822, or 1922 so here we are. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/13 "2022-09-25T20:58:25Z")
> there shall, in that time, be _rumors_ of things going astray, errrm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi - with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that… I mean, how clear do you want it? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/14 "2022-09-26T02:43:11Z")
I used to have a hardback with all of the Nostrodamus’ quatrains in the original language and with translations. I had it not because I believed in his predictive powers, but to debunk him to those who did believe. My personal favorite- Believers make much of repeated mentions of “Hister”. They claim that The Man Who Saw Tomorrow was predicting Hitler. I would point out that Hister was a name for the river Danube and one quatrain includes the words “Bridge D’ Hister” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/15 "2022-09-26T03:01:32Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > Nostradamus predicted that joke over 500 years ago. Nostradamus had plenty of time in his hands… 🙂 Of course, QI had Nostradamus in the episode about hoaxes (after talking about all what Nostry got wrong): > **[QI Series H, Episode 3 - Hoaxes - British Comedy Guide](https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/8/3/)** > > A guide to Hoaxes, Episode 3 from Series H of QI. > The only thing we know for certain that Nostradamus got right was his recipe for cherry jam. Apart from his predictions, Nostradamus (born Michel de Nostradame, 1503-1566) was also an apothecary and read lots of books, including one about jam. He wrote a recipe for cherry jam and it is known to be just as good today as it was back then. He also attempted to make aphrodisiac jams. Of course, the lover boy failed on that too… ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/16 "2022-09-26T03:17:46Z")
Well played ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nostradamus-sigh/972210/17 "2022-09-29T07:21:11Z")
I didn’t want the old bat to die, even though she’d ran out of colors for her monochrome outfits. God forbid she’d have to wear a floral or plaid. I enjoy reading the antics them silly royals get into. Anywhoo, I wish Harry would be king. He could be Henry the ninth. Megan needs to watch for a swordsman coming to dinner 'cause Harry does have that red hair.