# Not a flattering picture of Amy Winehouse

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 21, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270 "2008-07-21T16:51:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/21 "2008-07-21T19:17:05Z")

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[QUOTE=DigitalC]  
She looks better in that original picture than she does in about 90% of the other pictures of her lately.  
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Yeah, exactly. That one surprised me by how not-awful it was.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/22 "2008-07-21T19:20:52Z")

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Sussex’s finest! “FRESHEN YOUR DRINK LUV???”

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/23 "2008-07-21T19:58:26Z")

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[QUOTE=BMax]  
I think [this](http://www.liverpool.com/assets/_files/images/jul_07/lb_liv__1183538070_amy_winehouse_new_large.jpg) might be the photo you’re talking about.  
Yeah, she was a beauty. Once, for about 20 minutes.  
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Yeah, that’s it.

Also like [this](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/Saltlick/Sub3/AmyWinehouse01.jpg) and [this](http://trouble.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/amy2_gross.jpg).  
[Here](http://www.usmagazine.com/files/amy-winehouse-jail-blog.jpg), the wastage hadn’t set in yet but the 'hive and prison tats were already in place. Her 20 minutes were about up.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/24 "2008-07-21T21:51:30Z")

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I thought [this](http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a99_Winehouse.jpg) was going to be your linked picture, **Tripler**. eeYIKES!

(That’s from [20 Ugliest Celebrities](http://www.oddee.com/item_88803.aspx). Just a little bit of bad-spirited fun.)

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/25 "2008-07-21T22:24:14Z")

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[QUOTE=An Gadaí]  
Sussex’s finest! “FRESHEN YOUR DRINK LUV???”  
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I think that is the Simpsons line I’ve said with my friends (and once-upon-a-time, wife) more than any other, so I feel sort of compelled to nitpick, I’m afraid:

> [@](#):
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> Fresh from the streets of Sussex, they are! “FRESHEN YOUR DRINK, GUV’NER?”

That is all. Carry on. 🙂

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/26 "2008-07-21T22:28:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Freudian Slit]  
Is…Devil Girl supposed to be attractive?  
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No, sexy.

There’s a lot of women who are attractive without being particularly sexy, and vise-versa. Crumb can draw beautiful women, and can draw women beautifully. Devil Girl was something dragged up from Crumb’s subconscious to serve as an obsession for his alter-ego Flakey Foont.

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**Author:** ![unstrung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a698b9/32.png) [@unstrung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unstrung)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/27 "2008-07-21T22:39:41Z")

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I really do enjoy many of the songs I’ve heard from Ms. Winehouse, but the pictures you post here are fairly hard to dispute. I suspect there was a time when she could have been quite lovely, before the extended trainwreck that is her rise to fame began…

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/28 "2008-07-21T22:52:10Z")

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She was very pretty before the trainwreck.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/29 "2008-07-21T23:17:27Z")

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At least it took Whitney Houston a few years to go from gorgeous diva to the cover of _Crack Whore_ magazine. It’s like Amy got a visit from her fairy godmother, except that unlike Cinderella, hers is an abusive bitch.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/30 "2008-07-21T23:27:23Z")

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[QUOTE=gaffa]  
No, sexy.

There’s a lot of women who are attractive without being particularly sexy, and vise-versa. Crumb can draw beautiful women, and can draw women beautifully. Devil Girl was something dragged up from Crumb’s subconscious to serve as an obsession for his alter-ego Flakey Foont.  
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I guess I can sort of see someone who might be sexy without being attractive (though by definition it seems kind of a weird thing to say), but how can a woman be attractive and not sexy?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/31 "2008-07-21T23:27:36Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
I thought [this](http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a99_Winehouse.jpg) was going to be your linked picture, **Tripler**. eeYIKES!

(That’s from [20 Ugliest Celebrities](http://www.oddee.com/item_88803.aspx). Just a little bit of bad-spirited fun.)  
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I’m surprised they didn’t include **[Pete Burns](http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2227/phpjdkqhvhm9.jpg)**!

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**Author:** ![PharmBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PharmBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PharmBoy)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/32 "2008-07-22T00:40:12Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
I thought [this](http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a99_Winehouse.jpg) was going to be your linked picture, **Tripler**. eeYIKES!

(That’s from [20 Ugliest Celebrities](http://www.oddee.com/item_88803.aspx). Just a little bit of bad-spirited fun.)  
[/QUOTE]

Ick, That’s the worst, with the scar from her lost tooth showing. Skanky..

And yet, pre-psychotic break, she was quite cute.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/33 "2008-07-22T00:40:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Freudian Slit]  
I guess I can sort of see someone who might be sexy without being attractive (though by definition it seems kind of a weird thing to say), but how can a woman be attractive and not sexy?  
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Really? I suppose it’s the ultimate in personal taste, but for instance I find Gweneth Paltrow to be attractive, but not at all sexy. Even rolling around in the sheets in “Shakespeare In Love”, she did nothing for me. Most models fall into that category for me as well. “Attractive” is the body…“sexy” is the spirit in the body.

Might this be worthy of a separate discussion in IMHO?

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**Author:** ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/34 "2008-07-22T00:42:23Z")

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I notice that the “nice” pictures all have her with her mouth closed.

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**Author:** ![GilaB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GilaB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GilaB)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/35 "2008-07-22T00:56:06Z")

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She _did_ have braces once, so at some point her parents did care about her teeth. My brother is friends with her cousin, and he’s mentioned seeing childhood pictures of the two of them together, with Amy in braces.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/36 "2008-07-22T09:42:37Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]  
I think that is the Simpsons line I’ve said with my friends (and once-upon-a-time, wife) more than any other, so I feel sort of compelled to nitpick, I’m afraid:  
That is all. Carry on. 🙂  
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What is this Simpsons you talk about?

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**Author:** ![DistendedPendulousFrenulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@DistendedPendulousFrenulum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DistendedPendulousFrenulum)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/37 "2008-07-23T03:09:07Z")

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[QUOTE=NinetyWt]  
Anyone who starves themselves while ingesting a bunch of poisons is going to look rough.

For a while, anyway.  
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I think most people fail to appreciate the discipline it takes to slowly poison or starve oneself.

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**Author:** ![nikonikosuru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@nikonikosuru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nikonikosuru)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/38 "2008-07-23T06:08:18Z")

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She looked pretty in the pre-beehive/rat nest pictures.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/39 "2008-07-23T16:29:09Z")

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[QUOTE=DistendedPendulousFrenulum]  
I think most people fail to appreciate the discipline it takes to slowly poison or starve oneself.  
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Not to deprecate her accomplishment, but the right poisons can make the starvation part a whole lot easier.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-flattering-picture-of-amy-winehouse/457270/40 "2008-07-23T16:35:01Z")

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Let me be the first to say “Who gives a shit?”

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