# not a mistake but it takes you out of the movie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 23, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629 "2009-01-23T13:34:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/201 "2009-01-28T17:42:23Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’d bet that Kcirevam would kick Maverick’s butt, too! He sounds like a Commie to me! ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/202 "2009-01-28T17:54:52Z")
As someone who used to travel a lot, one thing that ruins the moment are the amazingly roomy movie aircraft. Apparently all seats have more room than reality first class (although Planes, Trains & Automobiles got it right), and they have absolutely huge upper crawlspaces, and cavernous lower storage areas for people to roam (Flight Plan took this concept to the absurd). Add this to the fact that the only noise you hear on movie aircraft is a faint whooshing sound, and I am taken out of the movie… ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/203 "2009-01-28T18:21:05Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Add this to the fact that the only noise you hear on movie aircraft is a faint whooshing sound, and I am taken out of the movie… Have you ever seen _Airplane_? That movie has a hilariously subtle thing that took me a while to clue in on: The sound effect for the plane flying is a droning hum… the sound made by propeller-driven airplanes, but _not_ by turbine-driven jets.😃 ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/204 "2009-01-28T18:52:08Z")
> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#): > > Cinematography can often take me right out of the movie. The current love of shaky cam – for that \*cinema verite \*feel – just pisses me off. My eyes don’t jiggle when I’m running around, so why the hell should the camera? I recall that there is one scene in Carlito’s Way – ONE SCENE – that was shot in steady cam, while the rest was shot normally. Obviously it was done that way for a reason, but I then spent the next ten minutes deconstructing the filming technique in my head instead of just enjoying the movie which ruined the show for me. Ugh. Yes. Not to mention ‘shaky-cam’ gives me bad headaches. On a similar vein, dealing with camera and such… Lens flare in animation. I don’t think people realize that lens flare is an artifact in photography, not something we see in real-life. It bugs the living hell out of me when I see it in drawn work. It doesn’t really exist! It doesn’t need to be there! We understand the sun is shining, but its not creating an internal reflection in the camera. JUST. STOP. IT! ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/205 "2009-01-28T22:08:24Z")
Personally, I do give Top Gun a little credit, as the "MiG"s they were encountering were explicitly _supposed_ to be a fictional model (the “MiG-28”), and not a known real-world model that they were trying to crassly pass off as looking like an F-5. I’ve even seen some speculation (mostly among aircraft and model geeks having a fun time) that the MiG-28 was actually based on the design F-5s captured during the fall of the RVN, but upgraded with fiendish commie engineering to be closer in capability to the [F-20](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-20_Tigershark). Fanwanking. Tis all in good fun! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/206 "2009-01-29T00:34:07Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t mind this so much, because there’s not really a good way around it. Were the producers supposed to call the Soviet Air Force and say “we’re making a movie where we kick your ass. Can we borrow a couple MiG-23s?” I understand that no American film is going to have access to genuine Soviet jets. But Phantoms are one the worst possible choices for an American jet pretending to be a Soviet one. As I wrote they have a very distinctive appearance. They’re the equivalent of a Volkswagen Beetle. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/207 "2009-01-29T01:16:01Z")
A few little things in _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ kept pulling me out of the movie: - The scorpion stings Junior and he says it stung him, but Indy calls it a bite - just makes him sound ignorant. - He’s in the sinking sand and Junior throws him the snake to use as a rope, and says (not 100% sure about this one, I’ve listened carefully, but still might have misheard) “hold on tight, it’s slimy” - “the metal in the gunpowder will show the way”. What metal? ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/208 "2009-01-29T03:15:07Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > Have you ever seen _Airplane_? That movie has a hilariously subtle thing that took me a while to clue in on: The sound effect for the plane flying is a droning hum… the sound made by propeller-driven airplanes, but _not_ by turbine-driven jets.😃 Heh, yeah I think that was great. I also find it interesting that people in movies can have conversations while riding in a helicopter. They don’t need an intercomm system or anything. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/209 "2009-01-29T03:46:44Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > A few little things in _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ kept pulling me out of the movie: > > - The scorpion stings Junior and he says it stung him, but Indy calls it a bite - just makes him sound ignorant. Yes! What the hell was that? ---
**Author:** ![runcible\_spoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc29f/32.png) [@runcible\_spoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/runcible_spoon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/210 "2009-01-29T06:55:04Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > 300 was a tale told by someone specifically picked because they were good storytellers in order to inspire the troops. Whats the problem with having some fantasy elements? it was a tale not a historical account, it makes perfect sense in that context. What you see is what the one eyed survivor is telling the army, not what actually happened. Oh, what, did he describe the horrible particle-effect blood, too? To be honest, I’ve repressed as much of that movie as I can, but I still remember there just being too many stupid things happening to ascribe to the narrator. Some of it, yeah, but climbing up a mountain to get to the oracle - nuh-uh, that’s just stupid. > [@Morbo](#): > > Southern California. No one in San Francisco adds “the” in fronty of highway names. Extra irritating when the show is set in San Francisco and the characters say “We’re on the 101” Funny - I think I switch between ‘highway 101’, ‘180’ and ‘the one’ (the road, not Keanu Reeves). I’m from Oregon, and I definitely use ‘highway 34’ at home, but I think in the sudden plethora of highways in my life I’ve gotten confused and picked up Californian habits. Crap. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/211 "2009-01-29T10:03:03Z")
> [@runcible\_spoon](#): > > Some of it, yeah, but climbing up a mountain to get to the oracle - nuh-uh, that’s just stupid. Thats the easiest thing to explain. They make the king jump through hoops to get what he wants. There has to be sacrifice in order for him to get the word of the gods. If he was stopping by for tea or to drop off a bribe he could use the front door. If he is there on business then he uses the service entrance. ---
**Author:** ![Viridiana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Viridiana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Viridiana)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/212 "2009-01-29T11:57:30Z")
Along with the nude “eye candy” scenes, which I hate regardless of gender, and afterglow modesty syndrome, actual action sex scenes are a big jarring effect for me! It’s almost always either PG too-under-the-blankets cuddling or softcore posing and camera-mugging with the naughty bits covered up either _too_ strategically (so you’re thinking “how am I not seeing that penis?”) or just laughably obviously (undies off but bra on?). But in scenes where it’s meant to be gritty and realistic so it’s just machinelike doggystyle humping shot from behind, it still takes me out because the butts look so silly, and I start thinking about how they’re keeping the genitals from actually touching. I think I recall the sex scene in Oldboy (original) being close to okay, but I don’t remember it all that clearly so I might be wrong. Also, actors who are too recognizable, anyone too pretty/made-up/unruffled for the time and place (including things like perfect teeth, though this is more of a mistake to me) and cg effects used on humans/animals. Oh, and also, whenever there’s a rape scene that features restraint with bare hands only, I start imagining whether I could personally get out of the hold. And whenever there’s a movie in San Francisco with a montage that includes the victorian houses - If we’re supposed to be exposed to some wide-eyed character’s first entry into the city, I guess I can accept the skyline and the bridge. But no one’s gonna include the friggin’ Victorians in their “wow, so this is SF” schema unless maybe they’re reading a tourist brochure or are antique dealers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Superhero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Superhero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Superhero)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/213 "2009-01-29T20:48:38Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Most things involving digital images/photo enhancement tick me off. I’ve been making personal use of Photoshop for at least a decade and worked for over two years processing images at a digital library, so I have some experience in this area. People on TV and in movies (especially _CSI_ type shows) regularly do things with one mouse click that would actually involve several steps, or that aren’t even possible. > > A typical scene goes something like this: > > **IMAGE EXPERT:** Here’s an image we took from the security camera showing a blurry image of the perp, from behind. > **ME:** “Enhance it!” > **COP:** Enhance it. > **ME:** \ > **IMAGE EXPERT:** \ And here we see a crystal clear close-up of the perp’s face. Drives me goddamned crazy. The episode of “CSI:NY” that was on last night had one of the most egregious examples of this I’ve ever seen on any of the myriad equally-stupid-about-image-enhancement Science Cops shows. The suspect they’re looking for is caught on camera at a tollbooth opening his car door and leaning out, but the image is (naturally) lo-res. The Science Cop says, “I did a (digital analysis and comparison mumbojumbo) to confirm that this is our man.” At the precise moment I was thinking, “Well, that’s a little silly, but at least they didn’t do the standard, ‘We’ve enhanced this photo to get a crystal-clear look at his face’ trick,” the Science Cop then proceeds to explain how they’ve used digital enhancement mumbojumbo to get a crystal clear, readable image of the VIN from the ID tag on the end of the car door. I mean, I don’t really expect much from the “science” on the Science Cops shows, but this was just beyond the pale. When I see some of the stuff they do on these shows (this same episode had the ME using a perfectly detailed 3D hologram to explain something to Curly Haired Lady Science Cop, for example), I wonder why people say that science fiction rarely succeeds on television. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/214 "2009-01-29T22:21:55Z")
It happened really close to the end so it didn’t ruin the movie, but in _Raising Arizona_, I’m pretty sure that Nathan Sr. left his handgun in Nathan Jr.'s crib, after he confronted Hi and Ed. We see him put the gun down – in the crib with the baby (almost a toddler – he’s crawling) – but we don’t see him take the gun back out of the crib when he leaves the room. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/215 "2009-01-29T22:44:16Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > It happened really close to the end so it didn’t ruin the movie, but in _Raising Arizona_, I’m pretty sure that Nathan Sr. left his handgun in Nathan Jr.'s crib, after he confronted Hi and Ed. We see him put the gun down – in the crib with the baby (almost a toddler – he’s crawling) – but we don’t see him take the gun back out of the crib when he leaves the room. :eek: I just took that as one of the many delightfully absurd, twisted moments in a delightfully absurd, twisted movie. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/216 "2009-01-29T23:23:57Z")
> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#): > > I just took that as one of the many delightfully absurd, twisted moments in a delightfully absurd, twisted movie. 🙂 I think that’s a good way to look at it. 🙂 It was also absurd that Nathan Sr. left the baby alone in the room with Hi and Ed. How did he know they wouldn’t snatch the kid again? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/217 "2009-01-29T23:38:46Z")
> [@runcible\_spoon](#): > > Oh, what, did he describe the horrible particle-effect blood, too? To be honest, I’ve repressed as much of that movie as I can, but I still remember there just being too many stupid things happening to ascribe to the narrator. Some of it, yeah, but climbing up a mountain to get to the oracle - nuh-uh, that’s just stupid. Having to go through “trials” is basically SOP for asking questions of an all knowing oracle in fantasy. Im sure they have a staff entrance :P. ---
**Author:** ![davidw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@davidw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidw)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/218 "2009-01-30T00:17:38Z")
The super-passionate sex scenes where the couple sweeps all the plates and lamps off the table, knocks the pictures off the walls, tear the plumbing off the wall. All I can think is “if you have to have her this second, can’t you just fuck on the floor? That’s gonna be a bitch to clean up in the morning.” ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/219 "2009-01-30T00:32:25Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Thats the easiest thing to explain. They make the king jump through hoops to get what he wants. There has to be sacrifice in order for him to get the word of the gods. If he was stopping by for tea or to drop off a bribe he could use the front door. If he is there on business then he uses the service entrance. Plus, it’s handy for them to remind the King where his place is, crawling up the side of the mountain to beg for their wisdom. He might not share their opinion, but it’s good for their egos, and since the rules evidently favor the King having to confer with them first before he can do anything, they get to set the price of admission. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629/220 "2009-01-30T01:03:22Z")
Two from Die Hard 4.0. At the beginning of the film the bad guys upload a virus onto the hackers’ computers. The presence of the virus is signaled by the screens going askew. The hackers’ response is to hit **delete**. What the fuck is that supposed to do? Ctrl+Alt+Delete I can understand, but delete by itself? They had to make it one button because of the scene where the model falls on Farrell’s computer to explode it, but they could have had a keyboard with a reset button to do that. Later on in the film they have to download 500TB of data over a USB connection. According to my calculations this should take something over 100 days, not 24 hours. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-a-mistake-but-it-takes-you-out-of-the-movie/482629.md?page=12)