# Not angry at all. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215 "2016-06-12T20:09:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/41 "2016-06-13T00:55:22Z")
When the OP is talking about “defending the indefensible,” he’s talking about white guys selling guns to anybody, right? Fucking money-grubbing white guys. They are the real menace to America. Somebody ought to do something. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/42 "2016-06-13T01:33:20Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Except my satire is grounded in the facts of the case and smears like fresh feces all over the Recreational Outragers . . . Careful. Some of that’s getting in your mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/43 "2016-06-13T01:41:19Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > When the OP is talking about “defending the indefensible,” he’s talking about white guys selling guns to anybody, right? > > Fucking money-grubbing white guys. They are the real menace to America. Somebody ought to do something. No, he’s talking about shooters like Dylann Roof, who obviously represents a great danger amongst white male loners in general. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/44 "2016-06-13T01:44:13Z")
**Revenant Threshold** : I appreciate the amount of effort you’re putting into making **Stringbean** look stupid, but don’t you think he’s doing a fine job of it all on his own? ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/45 "2016-06-13T02:05:18Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > At any rate, the stunning dissonance on display regarding these two successive events is illuminating It is, although not in the way you seem to think. [As the Orlando shooting was occurring](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19398666&postcount=12), you were posting in the Pit thread you started about liberals being too quick to jump to conclusions and indulge in recreational outrage. Heck, it was only a few hours before starting this thread that you were [demanding an apology](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19398654&postcount=111) from **Merneith** for “jumping to conclusions”. Now you’re Pitting liberals for _not_ doing the sort of thing you just Pitted liberals _for_ doing. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/46 "2016-06-13T02:35:55Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Except my satire is grounded in the facts of the case and smears like fresh feces all over the Recreational Outragers, to whom truth is expendable in service of their preferred narrative. > > Perhaps the difference eludes you. Or your olfactory sense is currently lacking. > > At any rate, the stunning dissonance on display regarding these two successive events is illuminating: one would think from this board the right-wing boogeyman just killed 50 people. Your satire sucks and you’re fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/47 "2016-06-13T02:41:27Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > It is, although not in the way you seem to think. > > [As the Orlando shooting was occurring](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19398666&postcount=12), you were posting in the Pit thread you started about liberals being too quick to jump to conclusions and indulge in recreational outrage. Heck, it was only a few hours before starting this thread that you were [demanding an apology](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19398654&postcount=111) from **Merneith** for “jumping to conclusions”. > > Now you’re Pitting liberals for _not_ doing the sort of thing you just Pitted liberals _for_ doing. And it was doubly stupid because **Merneith** was quoting the officials \*on the scene \*who reported wrong information. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/48 "2016-06-13T02:45:57Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > If you can’t grasp that liberals defending the indefensible is equivalent to liberals standing for nothing within the context of defending Islamic intolerance, at least as a rhetorical device within the broader argument, then you are either playing pedagogue for kicks or suffer from a frightful ignorance of artistic flair. My God, it’s full of stars. By which I mean a great spinally flexible bull sucking the shit out of its own ass. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/49 "2016-06-13T02:49:57Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I am not livid. Great. Can we all agree that this is your great theatrical effort at absolutely giving no shit whatsotever? If you actually give a shit that actual people died, orthogonal to your own preconceptions, just signal by blinking or just by saying that it massively sucks that a bunch of people just got mowed down by a legally purchased AR-15. Wiggle your ears, we’re not picky here. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/50 "2016-06-13T02:59:34Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > However, liberals no longer seem to believe in their own principles, preferring to subjugate them in defense of the Muslim community, where oppression of gays and women is ubiquitous. > > This is the defense of the indefensible; standing for something while standing for nothing. So long as the left forsakes its own integrity in the name of cultural sensitivity, I will call them for their hypocrisy. And I will not apologize for it. Through the past ages of violence and discrimination against women, children, the non-white, and LGBT… finally, after all these years, how bold and courageous of you to speak up when the perpetrator happens to have a Muslim name. Where the fuck were you these past 50 years? Never mind, you were completely full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/51 "2016-06-13T03:19:10Z")
Seriously, \*\*Stringbean[/B, what are you trying to say? That liberals are defending the killer because they may point out that not all muslims kill everyone they meet? Is that “defending the indefensible”? You’ll have to show me where anyone is defending “Islamic intolerance”, especially if that intolerance leads to 50+ deaths. Please take a breath, calm down, and clarify your argument. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/52 "2016-06-13T03:25:37Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Yep, Faulkner. That’s what we’re all thinking. Hey, give the stringy one a break. They just found out their mother’s a fish! Now leave him be; he has a golf course to watch… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/53 "2016-06-13T03:51:29Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Please take a breath, calm down, and clarify your argument. That’s like asking an aardvark to do algebra. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/54 "2016-06-13T03:56:02Z")
Isn’t the OP the one that used to endlessly bitch about far chicks? If so, there’s not much else one needs to know, right? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/55 "2016-06-13T04:00:05Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Isn’t the OP the one that used to endlessly bitch about far chicks? If so, there’s not much else one needs to know, right? The smell of fat chicks just put his spine out of place. The court rules he should just expound on whatever his deal is. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/56 "2016-06-13T04:10:31Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Hey, give the stringy one a break. They just found out their mother’s a fish! No, she just smells like one. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/57 "2016-06-13T04:26:40Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I am not livid. I am not so angry as to render me mute. > > I have accepted that this exists, and will continue to exist. > > I embrace my friends who claim religious doctrine and the leaders who espouse it cannot be conflated to draw broader conclusions about the religion as a whole. > > I await the next missionary of Allah to do God’s beckoning, whilst I and my enlightened brethren quibble about cultural sensitivity and respecting the norms of other societies. > > I defend the indefensible. The downtrodden who would laugh and spit in my face as I defend them. The downtrodden who believe the opposite of everything I believe. The downtrodden who we welcome into our society with open arms and who sometimes choose to return the favor in the form of a full metal jacket. > > I stand for nothing. I am nothing. I forsake the very values that have liberated me. I prefer my head in the sand for in there I offend no one. And for it, I can claim moral superiority. I can wash my hands of evil and call myself the good guy. > > I am the modern liberal. Hear me whimper. I came for a good pit thread about the shooting and this is the shit I get? Delete your account. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/58 "2016-06-13T04:37:33Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Please take a breath, calm down, and clarify your argument. I think it’s pretty clear. He’s not angry at all that 50+ people are dead and at least as many wounded. However, he is outraged that on the very afternoon of the deadliest mass shooting in American history, with the bodies as yet unidentified, liberals still had not started the kind of Pit thread he’d just denounced liberals for starting. Liberals and conservatives alike were instead posting about the Orlando shooting in the [MPSIMS thread on the subject](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=795559), started a good ten hours before this one. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffes_Can_t_Dance)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/59 "2016-06-13T04:47:04Z")
It’s a shame that the bodies of 50+ innocent people who were senselessly murdered, and whos bodies aren’t even cold yet, are being used by leftists everywhere–in true Alinsky form–to push an agenda of gun control. It’s deplorable that our nation’s President, at a press conference regarding this tragedy, stood on the backs of the deceased in order to propel his agenda, while refusing, once again, to name the religion associated with such devastation. I simply wish leftists would take some time to learn anything about guns, instead of spouting off about a subject in which they remain entrenched in ignorance. The AR-15 is NOT an automatic weapon. Automatic weapons are highly regulated and extremely difficult to obtain. If you took a few moments to educated yourself, instead of pissing your pants at the site of a gun, perhaps you would understand the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/60 "2016-06-13T04:58:26Z")
> [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](#): > > The AR-15 is NOT an automatic weapon. Automatic weapons are highly regulated and extremely difficult to obtain. If you took a few moments to educated yourself, instead of pissing your pants at the site of a gun, perhaps you would understand the difference. And that’s your rebuttal? An AR-15, a weapon that was just used to kill over fifty people, isn’t an automatic weapon and therefore it’s legal? The sane response to that is this just shows would be that we need go beyond banning automatic weapons and ban weapons like an AR-15. What’s the NRA’s response? People need AR-15’s for home defense. Really? When’s the last time you heard about fifty people breaking into somebody’s house? The only people that need a weapon that kills fifty people in a row are mass murderers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215.md?page=4)