# Not angry at all.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215 "2016-06-12T20:09:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/81 "2016-06-13T15:29:21Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> His schoolday’s insane. It’s not easy still being in elementary school well into your 50s.

This guy is that old? Seriously?? You’ve got to be kidding me.

You’d think that would stop surprising me, but despite all the moaning Zane groaning about what dicks millennials are, it always ends up being those old enough to know better.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/82 "2016-06-13T16:25:12Z")

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> [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](#):
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> The AR-15 is NOT an automatic weapon.

Then private possession of **semi** -automatics should be illegal. Thank you for clarifying the issue.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/83 "2016-06-13T17:07:00Z")

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A revolver is a semi-automatic weapon in that it fires one round each time the trigger is pulled.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/84 "2016-06-13T17:14:08Z")

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Let’s make ammo illegal.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/85 "2016-06-13T17:43:19Z")

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Maybe let’s _register_ semi-automatics …

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/86 "2016-06-13T17:56:34Z")

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This thread was more fun when we were picking on **Stringbean** , although I have actually learned some things. _grumble_

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/87 "2016-06-13T17:56:52Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Let’s make ammo illegal.

If you make ammo illegal then only illegals will have ammo.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/88 "2016-06-13T18:05:54Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> No, she just smells like one.

Oh my. Yo mama jokes!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/89 "2016-06-13T18:07:06Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> End of thread when you self-identify as an idiot.

That’s hate speech. You partyist.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/90 "2016-06-13T18:14:47Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Through the past ages of violence and discrimination against women, children, the non-white, and LGBT… finally, after all these years, how bold and courageous of you to speak up when the perpetrator happens to have a Muslim name. Where the fuck were you these past 50 years? Never mind, you were completely full of shit.

Funny the vitriol that is directed at a poster when he rightfully points out how eager the left is for a crime to be associated with an enemy of one of their recent moral crusades yet nothing but extreme caution when the perpetrator is a member of the left’s victim hierarchy. Even the term “Muslim name” is weasel like. If this shooter would have been inspired by some far right nutty ideology there would be no hesitation to comment. There would be no hesitation to condemn the ideology that led to the shooting. But since it’s a non US dominant religion and thus “oppressed” the focus is on weapons that millions own peacefully, mental health, and other tangential issues.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/91 "2016-06-13T18:41:02Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> At any rate, the stunning dissonance on display regarding these two successive events is illuminating: one would think from this board the right-wing boogeyman just killed 50 people.

Religious fundamentalism and conservatism go hand in hand. So in some sense I do think that a right-wing boogeyman just killed 50 people.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/92 "2016-06-13T18:59:06Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Funny the vitriol that is directed at a poster when he rightfully points out how eager the left is for a crime to be associated with an enemy of one of their recent moral crusades yet nothing but extreme caution when the perpetrator is a member of the left’s victim hierarchy. Even the term “Muslim name” is weasel like. If this shooter would have been inspired by some far right nutty ideology there would be no hesitation to comment.

He was inspired by a far right ideology: homophobia. Something that’s being largely ignored in favor of making the issue about Islam.

If the shooter had been Christian, I expect people would be reluctant to even use the word “terrorism”, and we’d be seeing lots of not-very-subtle hinting from right wing politicians and preachers about the victims deserved it. The same thing we always see when that happens.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/93 "2016-06-13T19:07:09Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> He was inspired by a far right ideology: homophobia. Something that’s being largely ignored in favor of making the issue about Islam.
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> If the shooter had been Christian, I expect people would be reluctant to even use the word “terrorism”, and we’d be seeing lots of not-very-subtle hinting from right wing politicians and preachers about the victims deserved it. The same thing we always see when that happens.

You mean he was inspired by his _religion_ which teaches violent homophobia. Which was the factor in this shooting. Not some imaginary shooting.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/94 "2016-06-13T19:17:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You mean he was inspired by his _religion_ which teaches violent homophobia. Which was the factor in this shooting. Not some imaginary shooting.

Lots of religions teach violent homophobia. Protecting and promoting religions which teach violent homophobia is a regular activity in the right wing.

Focusing on the violent homophobia of the shooter’s particular religion while giving violent homophobia in other religions a pass would make it impossible to fight violent homophobia. Which may well be the right-wing boogeyman’s objective.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/95 "2016-06-13T19:20:23Z")

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I guess the gunman figured the Honky Tonk across town was full of folks who love their own guns more than life itself.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/96 "2016-06-13T19:20:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You mean he was inspired by his _religion_ which teaches violent homophobia.

And you know this how? He grew up in America, a nation with plenty of violent homophobia. He didn’t need his religion to teach him to hate homosexuals.

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/97 "2016-06-13T19:23:42Z")

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Florida has a pretty liberal gun laws… didn’t seem to help tho did it? All that talk about “only a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun” crap is just that…crap.

And a big hearty “Fuck You!” to anyone who blames something like this on a political leaning. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you so small minded that you truly think a political philisophy allowed for a sick fuck to buy an AR-15 and walk into a crowded club and kill 49 people??

This happened because people hate. People hate out of fear, ignorance, weakness, mental illness and hundreds of other reasons. We need to figure a way to counter the hate or we will all lose, all of us.

In the meantime (while we figure how to eliminate hate) how about we just stop selling guns like they are Skittles?

**And why can’t it take longer, and require as much paperwork, insurance, and background checks, to buy a gun as it did to purchase my non-leathal home??**

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/98 "2016-06-13T19:32:09Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Lots of religions teach violent homophobia. Protecting and promoting religions which teach violent homophobia is a regular activity in the right wing.
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> Focusing on the violent homophobia of the shooter’s particular religion while giving violent homophobia in other religions a pass would make it impossible to fight violent homophobia. Which may well be the right-wing boogeyman’s objective.

This. As a Christian in the south, it’s pretty much everywhere. Right now, there is a church less than three miles from me that’s sign reads, “Making sin a law doesn’t make it right.” And that’s the fourth time I’ve seen something similar with 75 miles of me since the SCOTUS ruled SSM constitutional.

If people don’t realize that spreading that is hate, fear mongering and demonizing the opposition that will in turn lead to violence, I don’t know what they would be believe. But it can be prevalent across any religion about any hot button topic. It’s not just the latest boogeyman.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/99 "2016-06-13T20:28:49Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> This. As a Christian in the south, it’s pretty much everywhere. Right now, there is a church less than three miles from me that’s sign reads, “Making sin a law doesn’t make it right.” And that’s the fourth time I’ve seen something similar with 75 miles of me since the SCOTUS ruled SSM constitutional.
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> If people don’t realize that spreading that is hate, fear mongering and demonizing the opposition that will in turn lead to violence, I don’t know what they would be believe. But it can be prevalent across any religion about any hot button topic. It’s not just the latest boogeyman.

I’m guessing they believe the only reason for Sodom’s smiting was because it was full of sodomites.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-angry-at-all/757215/100 "2016-06-13T20:31:34Z")

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And they don’t see self-righteousness as a sin.

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