# Not conventionally pretty, but attractive nonetheless **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384 "2010-04-16T19:32:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/81 "2010-04-21T17:01:50Z")
Julia Roberts can either be very pretty or horsefaced, IMHO. It all depends on the lighting, camera angle, makeup, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/82 "2010-04-21T17:02:40Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > IDK although it’s hard to tell because I’m just so fond of her so that many introduce bias. But is she really not conventionally attractive, or is she just non-caucasian? Hmm. I’m not sure. It gets tricky. I mean, I think she is attractive, but not conventionally beautiful compared to other Asian actresses that are touted as beautiful. (Michelle Yeouh, Zhang Ziyi, Lucy Lui. I know I am spelling these names wrong, but when I was googling for pics, I mistakenly clicked on some dodgy virusy sites, so I’m done googleing Asian Beauties or anything similar) Maybe those other actresses are judged conventionally pretty because they are closer to the Caucasian idea. I don’t know. I’m kinda confused. ---
**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/83 "2010-04-21T18:00:55Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Well, I’m a straight woman, so my opinion may not count for a hill of beans, but I’ve heard more than one man say that he thought [bjork](http://www.boston.com/ae/music/blog/bjork.jpg) [was](http://nationfullofivy.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/c_users_svanur_gisli_orkels_pictures_bjork-homogenic-frontal.jpg) [pretty](http://www.flickr.com/photos/42285662@N02/3901462083/) [hot](http://www.betz.lu/media/users/charel/bjork1.jpg). Yeah, I’ve always been big on Bjork, but my libido became momentarily confused when I realized she and Roseanne Barr look very much alike except for the padding. As for a contribution to this thread (and these threads never go well as everyone just ends up debating conventional attractiveness), I nominate [Miranda July](http://members.cruzio.com/~momus/sa/meandyou2.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/84 "2010-04-21T18:09:07Z")
Flo the Progressive Chick and Kari Byron from Mythbusters. And though she’s become a conservative hack as of late, I’ve always had a thing for Victoria Jackson. Cyndi Lauper is getting a little long in the tooth, but she looks pretty good on the Apprentice, and I’d still do her. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/85 "2010-04-21T18:11:04Z")
Also, I’ll give a nod to Campbell Brown, the CNN anchor. She can give me the headlines any day. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/86 "2010-04-21T19:27:52Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Juliette Lewis would be my pick. I have never seen a still photo of her that looked good. By Hollywood standards, she is all nose and no chin. > > But in a motion picture, she is mesmerising. Juliette Lewis is an attractive woman who seemingly goes the extra mile in trying to make herself look as unattractive as possible. Also, the fact she frequently plays annoying, whiny, white trash characters who often have psychotic streaks is a further turn-off to lot of males (and I won’t even go into detail about the fact she’s a Scientologist too). [QUOTE=Gyrate] Attractive in an elven sort of way, yes, but Bjork is also kind of scary if you’ve heard any stories about her. I’d prefer to admire her from a distance. [/QUOTE] Agreed. That goes double, by the way, if you’re a paparazzi or even just an innocuous reporter who just wants to ask her a few questions. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/87 "2010-04-21T20:23:13Z")
I wouldn’t say Miranda Otto (Eowyn in _The Lord of the Rings_) is “conventionally pretty,” but I certainly find her attractive: [http://www.celebopedia.net/miranda-otto/images/miranda-otto.jpg](http://www.celebopedia.net/miranda-otto/images/miranda-otto.jpg) Likewise Audrey Tautou (_Amelie_): [http://www.famode.com/admin/UserFiles/image/Audrey%20Tautou.jpg](http://www.famode.com/admin/UserFiles/image/Audrey%20Tautou.jpg) And Emily Watson (_Punch-Drunk Love_): [http://content8.flixster.com/photo/30/92/54/3092542\_gal.jpg](http://content8.flixster.com/photo/30/92/54/3092542_gal.jpg) Or consider Helen Mirren (_The Queen_): [http://www.twolia.com/blogs/daily-beauty-break/files/2008/10/helen\_mirren.jpg](http://www.twolia.com/blogs/daily-beauty-break/files/2008/10/helen_mirren.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/88 "2010-04-21T21:26:11Z")
Wow, some people have pretty weird notions of what “conventionally pretty” means. I guess unless you’re a Hollywood 10, you’re not conventionally pretty. If you’re an Oakland 10 or a St. Louis 10, it doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/89 "2010-04-21T21:29:29Z")
Yeah, that ugly-ass [Helen Mirren](http://thebeautystop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hellen-mirren.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/90 "2010-04-21T21:35:11Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I know. My nomination for unconventionally pretty but attractive nonethless is Marilyn Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor, age 25. [Grace Kelly.](http://dreamsaremade.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/normal_gracekellybig.jpg) Weird nose, wide jaw, totally plain. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/91 "2010-04-22T03:26:00Z")
It’s all relative. There are so many smokin’ hawt women in the movies and on TV that those whose features are irregular or idiosyncratic in some way are “not conventionally pretty, but attractive nonetheless.” And, as always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/92 "2010-04-22T10:23:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Or consider Helen Mirren (_The Queen_): [http://www.twolia.com/blogs/daily-beauty-break/files/2008/10/helen\_mirren.jpg](http://www.twolia.com/blogs/daily-beauty-break/files/2008/10/helen_mirren.jpg) This only applies if you’re talking about Helen Mirren _as_ The Queen. Otherwise she scrubs up very well indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384/93 "2010-04-22T14:07:59Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > [Grace Kelly.](http://dreamsaremade.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/normal_gracekellybig.jpg) Weird nose, wide jaw, totally plain. I was just kidding, and I honest-to-god can’t tell if you are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-conventionally-pretty-but-attractive-nonetheless/536384.md?page=4)