# Not every Texan agrees with the Bush cartel

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 9, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949 "2003-08-09T00:17:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/21 "2003-08-09T14:02:34Z")

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**Reeder** learned a new word today, and that word is ‘rape’. Let’s see how many more things GW can ‘rape’ in one topic!

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/22 "2003-08-09T14:04:56Z")

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[http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0808-07.htm](http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0808-07.htm)

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/23 "2003-08-09T14:10:45Z")

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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=200388](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=200388)

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/24 "2003-08-09T14:11:10Z")

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[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54110-2003Jul27.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54110-2003Jul27.html)

At least on this one they are being forced to reconsider.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/25 "2003-08-09T14:13:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54110-2003Jul27.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54110-2003Jul27.html)
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> At least on this one they are being forced to reconsider. \*\*

If only you reconsidered this OP, and then the spamming of it with random leftist links!

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/26 "2003-08-09T14:14:34Z")

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When the Bushistas get upset, you know you are speaking the truth.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/27 "2003-08-09T14:15:02Z")

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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...threadid=200388](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...threadid=200388)

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/28 "2003-08-09T14:16:35Z")

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Link screwed up.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/29 "2003-08-09T14:23:20Z")

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Or that you’re being a bit of a One Trick Pony. Everyone knows that’s Esprix’s job, Reeder. Come on, pick a point, settle in, and debate it.

What’s this debate? Bush has allowed greater corporitization of the country by relaxing standards?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/30 "2003-08-09T14:24:07Z")

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Oh yeah? Blowjob.

When Clintonistas get upset, you know you are speaking the truth.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/31 "2003-08-09T14:24:54Z")

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Poopy pants!

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/32 "2003-08-09T14:30:23Z")

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Just for the record…I only voted for Clinton once. Hardly makes me a Clinton fan. Although I must say, I would much prefer he was still prez rather than the corporate shill we have now.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/33 "2003-08-09T14:39:58Z")

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Here, **Reeder** , let me help you up onto that cross. Pretty sure I’ve got some nails around here somewhere…

Ya know, while we’re waiting for the Centurions to drop by, spamming the board in this way is not likely to win you many converts to your Holy Cause. Or is it suicide by Mod that you’re after? If so, I think you’re gonna get your wish.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/34 "2003-08-09T14:51:12Z")

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Again…no one addresses the issues. It’s all an attack on the messenger.

That says a lot.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/35 "2003-08-09T14:51:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*When the Bushistas get upset, you know you are speaking the truth. \*\*

Upset? Hardly. You are a great person, **Reeder**. Unfortunately, your OP’s read like they were written by a mentally-impaired child. (Which we know you are not, since you are such a great person!)

-The title of the OP is supposed to give something more than a hint of the topic to be discussed. From the title of the OP, we are to believe that all (bar that one) Texans agree with GW?

-Then you lash out at **Airman Doors** , for ‘hon[ing] in on the title and ignor[ing] the gist’. But there is no ‘gist’ to your OP. A random quote from some leftist schmuck does not a gist make. Nor does your unrelated comment about raping vultures (or whatever.)

-You mention ‘They’ again. Who are ‘They’? GW? GW and his cabinet? The Man? Frankie goes to Hollywood? Who is ‘They’, and how are ‘They’ raping our country?

- **Rjung** goes for the redirect!

-3 links in a row, all about ‘enviromental’ issues. Is that what you intended the topic to be about? Tree-hugging? You should have just said so in your title/OP!

## **Reeder** , like I said, you are a great person. I daresay you are my best friend, ever!!1!!1! Unfortunately, every single one of your posts are incredibly stupid. Youv’e been posting for a while, you should know better by now.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/36 "2003-08-09T15:12:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Again…no one addresses the issues. It’s all an attack on the messenger.
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> That says a lot.

Yes, it does indeed. It says, in particular, that no one is interested in your posts because what you apparently consider ‘debate’ consists of posting links without comment, followed, as your firmly closed mind sees it, by us all agreeing with your brilliant insight. You are treating your readers like idiots, and they are, predictably, reacting unfavorably to your obvious contempt for your audience.

Posting random anti-Bush links is not discussion, it is lecturing, and it’s not even lecturing in your own words. You, sir, are doing nothing at all but witnessing for a particular anti-administration viewpoint. There can be no profitable discussion with a close-minded religious zealot, which (in case you are having trouble with this concept) is what you are.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/37 "2003-08-09T15:58:28Z")

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Hmmmm.

Still in GB and not redirected to BBQP.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/38 "2003-08-09T18:42:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by John Mace \*
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> Not what I was getting at. The OP is irrelevant, as my comparison was to the thread December started (you know the one) that never generated anything other than insults and emotional slaps. Is there a single post to this thread that remotely looks like a debate? No. OFF TO THE PIT!!

Well actually I think it is relevant, because it is my impression that administration dumped the **december** thread to the Pit more due to the OP than the ensuing catcalls.

That said, I agree with you it should be moved, because IMHO the OP is a rant, not a debate ( or if it is a debate, I’m mighty unsure as to what the topic is ).

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/39 "2003-08-09T19:00:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> These **vultures** are out to **rape and pillage** our country. They allow big business to **run roughshod**

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-every-texan-agrees-with-the-bush-cartel/193949/40 "2003-08-09T19:30:24Z")

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**Tamerlane:** Well, you’ve been to the latest December Pit thread, so you are aware that it is not at all clear that the message, below, that was used to send the “Treason” thread to the Pit was directed at the OP and not at the follow-on posters. I read it as the latter, especially since the only person specifically singled out was **not** December. One would expect that had December been the target, he would have been explicitly warned in the note from the Mod.

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> [Moderator Hat ON]
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> This seems more like rabble-rousing than debate, so I’m tossing it to the Pit. However, Mtgman, while you are in this forum you will not refer to a fellow poster as a “fencepost”, understood?
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> [Moderator Hat OFF]

But I guess that’s an obscure argument that we won’t know the answer to. Perhaps I’ll post a thread in GQ to find out the one true answer.🙂

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