I haven’t been able to find data that breaks it out by percentile, but the median household income in Oklahoma is 41.7 thousand dollars. This site 29 thousand as a starting teacher, and 38.7 thousand average. So yeah, I’m not seeing the need for a 2nd job here.
My daughter is a senior in high school and is currently applying to education colleges at various universities. I’ve actually steered her away from the ones where she’ll graduate with a Masters degree, because it will be a deterrent in landing a job.
Most districts want teachers with Master’s Degrees because it looks good on paper. There are two issues with this: 1) Getting more education doesn’t make you a more effective teacher; 2) School districts have to pay more once the teachers get a Master’s degree. With districts struggling, that pay increase is difficult to justify.
Get out. I did after 2 years of teaching high school physics and it was the best decision I ever made. This country is so back-asswards when it comes to teachers and education, there really is no hope.
Many states (I know of NY for sure) require a Masters degree to be a teacher.
HEY GUYS I ONCE MET A HOTEL MAID WHO HAD A VILLA IN FRANCE HOTEL MAIDS ARE THEREFORE FUCKING LOADED.
I know a bunch of actuaries who’d disagree. Their exams and study time are all paid for, and passing more exams/gaining higher qualifications means automatic raises and bonuses.
1.) You don’t know enough teachers.
2.) Wow, a *whole *$37k?! MY GOD, I need to quit my job right now and become a teacher!@!!! That’s totally an excellent amount of money to support a family on.
3.) As noted, you’re cherry-picking the richest salaries, and even *those *are unimpressive.
99% of tards like to make up statistics on the spot.
WTF are you talking about. How the fuck does “backpacking through Central America” equate with having a villa in France or being loaded.
I have no idea if that’s true or not. If you note, I said typically, not every other profession. But you’re pretty stupid, so I won’t hold that mistake against you.
(1) Gee I try to, but they are always working 3 jobs and never have time to do anything!
(2) Listen shit for brains. That’s the starting salary, and is more than enough to live on. So the idea that “You work a 2nd or 3rd job”, as if all teachers do so, is ridiculous.
(3) I didn’t cherry pick shit. Illinois is where I am from.
Yeah, and 100% of retarded mother fuckers like you couldn’t win an argument with a mildly retarded chimp.
treis, based on your performance in this thread and in this one, you’re not worth the effort it would take me to write a cogent, well-reasoned response. Suffice it to say that you’re an idiot who has no idea what you’re talking about.
Point out one factual error.
I could if your post contained any facts, instead of disingenuous statistics and horseshit.
Those are all statements that can be refuted by facts. Just pick one and have at it.
I’d love to hear the logic behind comparing teacher salaries to median household income counting as disingenuous statistics.
I could refute them, but other people are doing a good job of it in this and the other thread. Why reinvent the wheel?
I don’t see people doing a good job of refuting anything in post 70.
According to http://www.worldsalaries.org/usa.shtml, which I think must take into account the benefits and extra leave teachers receive, teachers do well for monthly income, ranking above physiotherapists and accountants. I don’t think that yearly salaries tell the whole story here.
Further, people haven’t really addressed some of the intangible benefits of teaching. It can be personally rewarding, for one thing, and teachers tend to be remembered by their students, for another. Sometimes they have a great impact upon the lives of others. Admittedly, it’s difficult to put that sort of thing on a spreadsheet.
Incidentally, the Occupational Outlook Handbook may disagree with the following:
Rather, it is required in some US states to acquire a Master’s degree, but in a specified period after becoming one, not as a prerequisite.
It would be a shame if somebody looking to make a career choice or decision on their major stumbled upon this thread and took the “get out at once! teaching sucks teh donkey dick!” posts at face value.
You saw that one, too, huh? I bet a teacher once killed his mother and raped his dog. Or something.
Doesn’t factor in all the off-books hours teachers work, doesn’t factor in all of their out-of-pocket expenses for the classroom, doesn’t make any distinction between public and private, doesn’t show the distribution by experience or role…
That’s because there are teachers who don’t work unpaid overtime, Dio. I don’t see what your other two “points” have to do with it.
Listen to the man!
To Drewtwo99 you listen!