# Not many people know that...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 28, 2004, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647 "2004-10-28T11:32:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/21 "2004-10-28T16:25:52Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end…  
> I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

Yale has a prom?  
Oh, and thanks… I now can no longer construe **Ivylass** to be a gender reference.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/22 "2004-10-28T20:50:53Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Yale has a prom?

I think it’s held in the deepest part of the ocean. Where is that, again? And how long did humans stay down there? How many times? When? I’m really curious about all this.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/23 "2004-10-28T20:55:09Z")

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I’m for the salt part again. How many pretzels would that cover? Enough to fill Mariana’s Trench? Can we get them to the moon?

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/24 "2004-10-28T22:13:57Z")

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This thread has me wondering so many things my head is spinning.

1. If the moon were made of green cheese and covered with a 240-foot-thick crust of salt, how big would you have to be to take a bite that contained equal parts salt and green cheese?

2. If we removed all the salt from the ocean and spread it evenly over Earth’s land surface, how long before everything became extinct? Then how long would it take for all that salt to wash back into the ocean?

3. If the seas were fresh water and we lived on top of a 40-foot-thick crust of salt, would we be more likely to explore the moon? Or the deep parts of the seas?

4. What kind of animals would live in the seas if the seas were fresh water?

5. What kind of animals would live on the land if it was a 40-foot crust of salt?

6. What kind of plants would grow in that crust of salt?

7. Where would you rather live? The moon? The Challenger deep? Or atop a 40-foot-deep pile of salt?

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**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/25 "2004-10-29T00:40:07Z")

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Whoa - check [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Trieste) website I found. I’m not sure whether to believe these outrageous claims or not:

> [@](#):
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> On January 23, 1960, she reached a record depth of 35,813 feet (10.92 km) in the Challenger Deep carrying Lieutenant Don Walsh, USN, and Jacques Piccard (son of Auguste). The descent took almost five hours and the two men spent barely twenty minutes on the ocean floor before undertaking the 3 hour 15 minute ascent.

Is this for real? Should we ask Cecil?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/26 "2004-10-29T01:11:42Z")

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> [@Nightwatch Trailer](#):
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> Whoa - check [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Trieste) website I found. I’m not sure whether to believe these outrageous claims or not:
> 
> Is this for real? Should we ask Cecil?

IIRC, there was a post in an earlier thread that confirmed this. Ah, [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=5420880) it is.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/27 "2004-10-29T01:27:31Z")

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> [@legion](#):
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> man has visited the deepest part of the worlds oceans, Challenger Deep in the Mariana’s Trench, just once.

Not true.

It was faked in a soundstage on the moon. It took them approximately 209 hours to set it up, 20 minutes to shoot and an additional 90 hours and 40 minutes to disassemble the stage. This is why they spent 300 hours on the moon.

I dare you to prove me wrong.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/28 "2004-10-29T01:37:53Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Not true.
> 
> It was faked in a soundstage on the moon. It took them approximately 209 hours to set it up, 20 minutes to shoot and an additional 90 hours and 40 minutes to disassemble the stage. This is why they spent 300 hours on the moon.
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> I dare you to prove me wrong.

And the entire segment was produced by two guys in LA that went on to create The Transformers (although they don’t want anyone to know who they are, except Chas E.).

Paul Verhoven directed.

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**Author:** ![Standup\_Karmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Standup\_Karmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Standup_Karmic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/29 "2004-10-29T01:51:25Z")

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> [@legion](#):
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> Man has visited the deepest part of the worlds oceans, Challenger Deep in the Mariana’s Trench, just once. In 1960. For 20 minutes.

I find this claim to be dubious. After all, it [has its own website.](http://www.marianatrench.com/)

My cites:  
[Microsoft](http://www.microsoft.com)  
[Macy’s](http://www.macys.com)  
[Monkey World](http://www.monkeyworld.co.uk)  
[Montana](http://www.state.mt.us/)

Like Mariana Trench, all begin with ‘M’, and have their own websites. All have been visited. For longer than 20 minutes. By tons of people.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/30 "2004-10-29T02:02:57Z")

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This thread started out discussing the salt in the sea.  
How about discussing the Salton Sea?  
Not many people know that only 2 films have been made which involve the Salton Sea:

> **[The Monster That Challenged the World (1957) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050722/)**
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> The Monster That Challenged the World: Directed by Arnold Laven. With Tim Holt, Audrey Dalton, Hans Conried, Barbara Darrow. Giant mollusk monsters attack California.

> **[The Salton Sea (2002) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235737/)**
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> The Salton Sea: Directed by D.J. Caruso. With Val Kilmer, Vincent D'Onofrio, Adam Goldberg, Luis Guzmán. After a tragic incident, a man drifts into a world populated by thugs and speed junkies.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/31 "2004-10-29T02:04:51Z")

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> [@legion](#):
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> [If the salt in the sea could be removed and spread evenly over the Earth’s land surface it would form a layer more than 500 feet thick, about the height of a 40 story office building.](http://www.palomar.edu/oceanography/salty_ocean.htm)
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> Man has landed on the moon six times and spent almost 300 hours on the moons surface (not all EVA). Yet man has visited the deepest part of the worlds oceans, Challenger Deep in the Mariana’s Trench, just once. In 1960. For 20 minutes.[Man has visited the deepest part of the worlds oceans, Challenger Deep in the Mariana’s Trench, just once. In 1960. For 20 minutes.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Trieste)

how do you kno all this hav you done the work yourself i donnt think so after all i saw a post on another bord from a poster called deepthroat so i think they should kno about diving and salty things and they thort this was all a us goverment PLOT for the switft sub vets so its up to U to proove its not

Im realy intrested two see when youv dun the work and let me kno wat yu find tx

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/32 "2004-10-29T04:01:22Z")

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Pfeh, that’s nothing.

Even _fewer_ people know that the juice of a single lemon, if diluted thinly enough, will cover the **entire state of Wisconsin!!!11!!!1!!!**

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/33 "2004-10-29T04:13:41Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> This thread has me wondering so many things my head is spinning.
> 
> 1. If the moon were made of green cheese and covered with a 240-foot-thick crust of salt, how big would you have to be to take a bite that contained equal parts salt and green cheese?
> 
> 2. If we removed all the salt from the ocean and spread it evenly over Earth’s land surface, how long before everything became extinct? Then how long would it take for all that salt to wash back into the ocean?
> 
> 3. If the seas were fresh water and we lived on top of a 40-foot-thick crust of salt, would we be more likely to explore the moon? Or the deep parts of the seas?
> 
> 4. What kind of animals would live in the seas if the seas were fresh water?
> 
> 5. What kind of animals would live on the land if it was a 40-foot crust of salt?
> 
> 6. What kind of plants would grow in that crust of salt?
> 
> 7. Where would you rather live? The moon? The Challenger deep? Or atop a 40-foot-deep pile of salt?

About a hundred dollars. Yeah, a hundred dollars.

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**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/34 "2004-10-29T04:23:34Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> About a hundred dollars. Yeah, a hundred dollars.

If you were “an excellent driver,” could you cross the moon’s equivalent of the Marianas Trench in less than twenty minutes in a moon buggy powered by sodium?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/35 "2004-10-29T04:39:23Z")

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An interesting sidepoint: The film _Rainman_ has a scene filmed in downtown Guthrie Oklahoma, at the corner of Division and Oklahoma Ave, the deepest part of Guthrie, only once, for about 20 minutes, later edited to a mere 97 seconds.

The directors cut is amazing. I hear he got about a hundred dollars. Yeah, he’s really worth his salt.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/36 "2004-10-29T04:46:51Z")

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Man has visited the deepest part of the worlds oceans, Challenger Deep in the Mariana’s Trench, just once. In 1960. For 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/37 "2004-10-29T04:48:01Z")

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If all of the girls who attended the Yale prom had their salt removed from the Mariana trench, it would form a crust over the moon, just once, for twenty minutes.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/38 "2004-10-29T04:55:00Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> Man has visited the deepest part of the worlds oceans.

Really? I had no idea! But who? And when? How long did they manage to stay down there?

Where is the deepest part of the world’s oceans, anyway?

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/39 "2004-10-29T05:01:15Z")

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If the moon’s weight in salt was all used to create pretzels, you would end up with enough pretzels to choke every politician and civil servant on earth.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-many-people-know-that/271647/40 "2004-10-29T05:12:22Z")

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> [@Gadfly](#):
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> Really? I had no idea! But who? And when? How long did they manage to stay down there?
> 
> Where is the deepest part of the world’s oceans, anyway?

I hear that it’s Challenger Deep in the Mariana’s Trench, just once. In 1960. For 20 minutes.

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