# Not only do I not want to see the movie...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 4, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274 "2008-01-04T15:41:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/21 "2008-01-05T00:35:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Freudian Slit]  
what is that manner of beast?  
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It’s a whalrhoos.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/22 "2008-01-05T03:55:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Helena]  
It’s a whalrhoos.  
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…not a real one, right?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/23 "2008-01-05T04:18:02Z")

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[QUOTE=h.sapiens]  
Also “One Missed Call”: You get a phone call. You hear your death. _Then You Die._.

Oooooooooh.  
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I’m not sure if it’s part of the plot, but it seems to imply that if you let the call go to voicemail you will die. Does that mean it’s okay if you pick the call up when the phone rings 😕 Who, besides the chicks talking on their phones in the bathroom stalls at work, picks up the phone unfailingly when it rings? We are \*\*all \*\* dead.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/24 "2008-01-05T04:26:05Z")

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[QUOTE=h.sapiens]  
I’m with you on “Bucket List”.

Also “One Missed Call”: You get a phone call. You hear your death. _Then You Die._.

Oooooooooh.  
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I’m thinking I’ve got to see it, since it raises so many questions. Who’s making the calls? Are they using their monthly free time allowance, or are they paying for their minutes? Does anyone get texted their death? If you answer and hear your death, you didn’t actually _miss_ the call, did you?

The current one that bugs me the most is AVP: R, or whatever the hell that Alien vs. Predator flick is. Spell the goddam title out, you heathens, or INGSI (I’m not going to see it).

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/25 "2008-01-05T06:47:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Helena]  
It’s a whalrhoos.  
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[QUOTE=Freudian Slit]  
…not a real one, right?  
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Actually, it’s an elephant seal.

Anyway, [this link](http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/217/ihazbucketlistde1.jpg) seems appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/26 "2008-01-06T04:00:51Z")

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Oh, an _elephant seal_. I did not know this. (It does look rather un-walrussy, now that you mention it.)

More ignorance fought!

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/27 "2008-01-06T07:31:58Z")

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Not having heard of this film until the thread and not having seen the trailer until just now I have a couple of questions to ask:

A.) Who in their right mind would think that this is a comedy based on the trailer?  
B.) How is this different than say _Beaches_, other than the lead roles are guys?  
3.) Where does **Opal** figure into this?  
D.) When will actors like Nicholson and Freeman get a role that enables them to be honest and say, “I took this film for a quick buck so that hopefully I can do some _real_ acting in another film later on.”?  
E.) For god sakes, can you Baby Boomers just freakin’ _die_ already and do it quietly? As a Gen-Xer, I’ve had to spend my entire life watching you guys pat yourselves on the back and telling everyone how great things were in the Sixties or some other such rot. Quite frankly, I _hate_ it when people of _my_ generation claim that the only good music was that released in the 1980s, so don’t think that I’m singling the Boomers out when I say that you need to get over yourselves.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/28 "2008-01-06T08:28:22Z")

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As the only person who’s actually seen the movie, I’ll give it a try.

[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]  
Not having heard of this film until the thread and not having seen the trailer until just now I have a couple of questions to ask:

A.) Who in their right mind would think that this is a comedy based on the trailer?

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I thought it was a comedy when I saw the trailer. Sure, a comedy with a somewhat dark edge, but still a comedy. I didn’t think it was the drama with some humerous moments that it turned out to be.

[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]  
B.) How is this different than say _Beaches_, other than the lead roles are guys?  
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I’ve never seen Beaches, so I can’t say.

[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]  
3.) Where does **Opal** figure into this?  
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I thought Opal came into it when there wasn’t enough of a list to make a third point/ask a third question.

[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]  
D.) When will actors like Nicholson and Freeman get a role that enables them to be honest and say, “I took this film for a quick buck so that hopefully I can do some _real_ acting in another film later on.”?  
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You big silly, who would write a script with a line like that in it?

I would guess that Nicholson and Freeman took their roles

1. to work with each other for the first time
2. to work with Rob Reiner
3. because the script said some interesting things about death and dying and friendship that spoke to them
4. to make money

How do you know that they haven’t said something like that? If even only to their friends and family? Nicholson probably has. Between Something’s Gotta Give and The Bucket List, he appeared in The Departed. Between As Good As It Gets and Anger Management, he appeard in The Pledge (one of his finest acting roles) and About Schmidt, both very good small films. He plays the Pays The Bills/Artistic Endeavors game fairly often. Morgan Freeman does too. For every Evan Almighty, there’s a handful of movies like Feast of Love, Gone Baby Gone, and Lucky Number Sleven, movies that were never intended to be blockbusters.

[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]  
E.) For god sakes, can you Baby Boomers just freakin’ _die_ already and do it quietly?.  
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Have patience, we’re working on it. Btw, neither Nicholson or Freeman are Baby Boomers. They’re from the in-between generation between the “Greatest Generation” and the Baby Boomers, having both been born in 1937. The movie seems geared toward those two generations, though bits of it might resonate with younger people. Reiner is a BB, barely. He was born in 1947. I can’t find out old the writer is, but his threads on IMDB make him sound like a Gen-Xer, strangely enough. I don’t really care about this movie, but he sound like a nice guy so I wish him well on future projects.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-only-do-i-not-want-to-see-the-movie/432274/29 "2008-01-06T09:12:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
As the only person who’s actually seen the movie, I’ll give it a try.

I thought it was a comedy when I saw the trailer. Sure, a comedy with a somewhat dark edge, but still a comedy. I didn’t think it was the drama with some humerous moments that it turned out to be.  
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I watched the trailer, then read your comments about it appearing to be a comedy and I still can’t figure out how you’re getting that from the trailer. It just screams “Weepy tear jerker” to me.

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> I’ve never seen Beaches, so I can’t say.

I’ve only seen parts of it, but it’s one of those “female bonding” movies that make my flesh crawl. _Not_ saying anything about the folks involved with the film, mind you, but the damn thing’s utter pablum from what I can tell. Just have one of the characters dying so that people can feel all sad and crap, rather than having them dying as a commentary on life in general.

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> I thought Opal came into it when there wasn’t enough of a list to make a third point/ask a third question.

Ya thought wrong! 😃

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> You big silly, who would write a script with a line like that in it?

[Michael Barrie and Jim Mulholland basically did with _Amazon Women on the Moon_](http://imdb.com/title/tt0092546/fullcredits#cast). To quote Henry Silva, “Did I take this job for a quick buck? Find out on _Bullshit or Not!_”

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> I would guess that Nicholson and Freeman took their roles
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> 1. to work with each other for the first time
> 2. to work with Rob Reiner
> 3. because the script said some interesting things about death and dying and friendship that spoke to them
> 4. to make money

Since you’re guessing, I’m going to guess that it’s probably in reverse order of what you mention. Freeman hasn’t had much big ticket work lately (which is a shame) other than _Batman Begins_, and I’d think that if he _really_ wanted to work with either Reiner or Nicholson before now, he could have done so. And the same holds true of Nicholson as well, given that he and Freedman have a good deal of clout in Hollywood. Reiner’s star seems to be fading faster than either of those two, which I suppose should be expected, since any listing of really great Hollywood directors wouldn’t necessarily include him, but if you were going to list really great Hollywood actors plenty of arguments could be made to include either Freeman or Nicholson on the list, if not both.

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> How do you know that they haven’t said something like that? If even only to their friends and family? Nicholson probably has. Between Something’s Gotta Give and The Bucket List, he appeared in The Departed. Between As Good As It Gets and Anger Management, he appeard in The Pledge (one of his finest acting roles) and About Schmidt, both very good small films. He plays the Pays The Bills/Artistic Endeavors game fairly often. Morgan Freeman does too. For every Evan Almighty, there’s a handful of movies like Feast of Love, Gone Baby Gone, and Lucky Number Sleven, movies that were never intended to be blockbusters.

Perhaps they’ve said it to their friends/family, but it’d be _nice_ if they said it to the rest of us as well. It’s an honesty thing that I kind of like in my actors, ya know? When Cosby came out and said that _Leonard Part 6_ was crap, I respected him for it. Not that I was planning on going to see the movie, anyway, but I respected him.

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> Have patience, we’re working on it.

Well, could you leave popular culture alone until you do? Thank you.

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> Btw, neither Nicholson or Freeman are Baby Boomers. They’re from the in-between generation between the “Greatest Generation” and the Baby Boomers, having both been born in 1937.

Yes, but Nicholson was in _Easy Rider_ which is one of the Baby Boomers defining movies, so he might not be one, but he sure helped shape the culture of them.

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> The movie seems geared toward those two generations, though bits of it might resonate with younger people. Reiner is a BB, barely. He was born in 1947.

“Barely” my ass. The Baby Boom officially began in 1946.

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> I can’t find out old the writer is, but his threads on IMDB make him sound like a Gen-Xer, strangely enough.

Oh Christ, if there’s something I hate worse than a Baby Boomer waxing all poetic about how great they are/were, it’s people from my generation being all maudlin. (And yes, I _will_ plead guilty to doing the same thing and I **encourage** people to slap me upside the head when I do so. Thank you in advance.)

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> I don’t really care about this movie, but he sound like a nice guy so I wish him well on future projects.

If by “well” you mean, “He ever writes something like this again, I hope that Chuck Norris’s third fist removes his lungs via his scrotal sack” then I agree.

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