# Not pit-level annoyance, just a peeve about pedo and rape hysteria... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 30, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470 "2010-11-30T22:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/201 "2010-12-03T02:43:03Z")
No, my argument is that it is not possible for a 30 year old to have cognitive parity with a 15 year old. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/202 "2010-12-03T02:43:28Z")
Hmm, so Diogenes is a necrophile? The truth comes out. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, my argument is that it is not possible for a 30 year old to have cognitive parity with a 15 year old. I’ve met some pretty dumb 30 year olds. Haven’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/203 "2010-12-03T02:46:22Z")
That’s a fatuous argument. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/204 "2010-12-03T02:54:15Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What about 14? Is that ever ok? Why not? Most religions hold the age of moral accountability below that and state courts in the United States have put minors on trial as adults at fourteen. Age and maturity are not the same thing. Plenty of people would die virgins, if cognitive ability were the litmus test. And I’m speaking as the older person who had sex with the 14 year old and was contacted by the “victim of statutory rape” years later so he could say, “Thanks, without you I would have probably blown my brains out.” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/205 "2010-12-03T02:55:51Z")
And to think this thread almost –_almost_– avoided being the Dio Crazy Show. It started off with the standard \*\*Stoid \*\*pile-on, then \*\*NZ \*\*spoke up about the targeting, followed by others chiming in to support Stoid’s opinion. There were lots of personal attacks and snipes, with Dio being adamant background noise, but a discussion continued no less. And now it’s all over. You tried, thread. You really did. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/206 "2010-12-03T02:56:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, my argument is that it is not possible for a 30 year old to have cognitive parity with a 15 year old. By what metric are you defining “cognitive parity”? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/207 "2010-12-03T04:35:12Z")
By any metric you want. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/208 "2010-12-03T04:38:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > By any metric you want. OK. Let’s go by IQ then. Care to take back your last answer? One chance no backsies. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/209 "2010-12-03T04:39:26Z")
IQ is not a metric for cognitive development. IQ probably doesn’t even exist. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/210 "2010-12-03T04:40:45Z")
Stop giving him second chances. In fact, stop responding. And watch this video for it is adorable. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BV7AwmMyFl0/hqdefault.jpg "Two-year-old Joins High-IQ Society") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7AwmMyFl0) ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/211 "2010-12-03T04:47:20Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > Stop giving him second chances. In fact, stop responding. And watch this video for it is adorable. > > [www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7AwmMyFl0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7AwmMyFl0) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/212 "2010-12-03T05:06:03Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > And to think this thread almost –_almost_– avoided being the Dio Crazy Show. It started off with the standard \*\*Stoid \*\*pile-on, then \*\*NZ \*\*spoke up about the targeting, followed by others chiming in to support Stoid’s opinion. There were lots of personal attacks and snipes, with Dio being adamant background noise, but a discussion continued no less. > > And now it’s all over. You tried, thread. You really did. High five! You made me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/213 "2010-12-03T05:06:54Z")
This isn’t the Pit, and I have not attacked anybody. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/214 "2010-12-03T05:13:01Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > IQ is not a metric for cognitive development. IQ probably doesn’t even exist. This had me laughing heartily. This is too good to let slide (sorry **rachleleogogram** ). Let’s start using this tactic whenever someone presses us to clarify our definitions. Here is the algorithm: Say: 1. “Use a fucking dictionary” Once that proves embarrassing: 2. Repeat yourself using slightly different language (eg “cognitive development” –\> “cognitive parity”) If asked to clarify your definition of the slightly modified phrase, say to use: 3. “any metric you want.” If a metric is provided (which again proves embarrassing): 4. Revert to previous language (eg “cognitive parity” –\> “cognitive development”), and point out that the metric provided for the newly adopted phrase doesn’t fit the previous one But don’t worry that someone might point this out, because you’ve got a trump card: 5. Deny that the metric even exists. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/215 "2010-12-03T05:15:42Z")
I’m not interested in word games. I have provided the cite explaining that neurogical devlopment is not complete until the 20’s. I’m obviously wasting my time here, as I always am. It is SDMB dogma that there’s nothing wrong with fucking underaged kids and anyone prosecuted for it is a victim. I give up. ---
**Author:** ![iamnotbatman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/858c86/32.png) [@iamnotbatman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamnotbatman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/216 "2010-12-03T05:16:23Z")
Successfully de-Dio’ed? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/217 "2010-12-03T05:32:10Z")
With all the “fucking”'s your’e throwing around Dio, it’s obvious you’re feeling very frustrated. So I decided to answer your question. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Is there an _age_ at which you think an equitable sexual relationship with an adult is _never_ possible. **Yes! Any age prior to puberty!** (And I’ll bet that everyone else reading this thread, being the smart bunch they usually are, understand that making puberty the line _ **below** _ which no sexual activity occurs _ **does not make puberty the line ABOVE which any and all sexual activity is ok.** _ And you know it, too. Because **I was explicit and detailed** about that fact [while wording it differently] in the post in which I answered you originally. Which means, when you ask the asinine question, _ **you’re deliberately being asinine.** _ You know, Dio, I’m obviously the last person on this board who would suggest that the search for approval warrants sacrificing one’s integrity or belief system. But I don’t believe for a split second that you are staying true to anything at all except your strange need to get attention. What I don’t get is why you seem to prefer so much _ **negative** _ attention. Seriously. It’s so sad it just strikes me as almost a kind of self-loathing punishment you inflict on yourself. I hope it isn’t, for your own sake.) ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/218 "2010-12-03T05:34:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m not interested in word games. I have provided the cite explaining that neurogical devlopment is not complete until the 20’s. > > I’m obviously wasting my time here, as I always am. It is SDMB dogma that there’s nothing wrong with fucking underaged kids and anyone prosecuted for it is a victim. I give up. Now I know we’re all being punked. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/219 "2010-12-03T05:38:45Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > This isn’t the Pit, and I have not attacked anybody. This is something of a non-sequitor… do you think something someone said was pit-worthy? Do you think your style of contribution can’t be commented upon unless it’s a full-blown pitting, that if you don’t end up in the pit we have to all pretend that you’re participating in good faith and not being asinine? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470/220 "2010-12-03T05:41:31Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > With all the “fucking”'s your’e throwing around Dio, it’s obvious you’re feeling very frustrated. > > So I decided to answer your question. > > **Yes! Any age prior to puberty!** “Prior to puberty” is not an age. Why can’t you just have the guts to give a real answer? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-pit-level-annoyance-just-a-peeve-about-pedo-and-rape-hysteria/562470.md?page=12)