# Not sure what to make of videos showing Joe Biden being creepy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 23, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642 "2018-06-23T22:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/61 "2019-04-03T01:53:47Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> All GOP Trump-felchers are jokes. It’s just that here they get called on their “I’m actually a Democrat. Walk away” BS.  
> As for Uncle Joe… I’d like to see a show of hands: How many people here have met him? In a social situation? Or… how many are just sucking down this Goebbels crap? I have. I KNOW this is BULLSHIT. Also, our pure innocent maiden of Nevada had quite the axe to grind against the party when she lost twice. Then again motive and opportunity are often seen as blaming the victim, right?  
> Sure he’s touchy-feely and in the way elderly relatives were back in the day… and maybe he won’t run after all. But No One is taking anything away from “women’s bodies” by saying just who do you think he was kissing through the three inches of hairspray and 'doo on the back of your head when he wished you luck? Or was your evil ass ferrying around Lord Voldemorte?  
> Also this ‘smelling hair’ thing. Bullshit. Do any of you… any of you… have older relatives who are 75 or older and have some breathing issues? Well, guess what… breathing gets just a little but less smooth and a little bit more clunky around then. Visit a nursing home and listen up. Do you hear that noise? It’s people breathing! Nobody is sniffing your anything.  
> Also, I’m glad some feckless piece of curb slime brought up plagiarism, because I want it brought up in conversation around every Trump / Trump Family / Trump Hunchbacked Minion instance of it. I want it pulled in banners by airplanes over every Trump rally and every Trump golf course… because if turn about isn’t fair play, well then… F.U…!

Nah, he is just a handsy plagiarist. All the frothing, marginally literate ranting some rando could post won’t change that.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/62 "2019-04-03T02:38:14Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Nah, he is just a handsy plagiarist. All the frothing, marginally literate ranting some rando could post won’t change that.

yes, except the rantings are coming from within the party.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/63 "2019-04-03T04:02:57Z")

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Biden’s always been handsy and boundary-free to an extent; it’s been a running joke on the Senate floor for at least 20 years that I’ve heard about it. His careless, thoughtless behavior opens him up to hurting people he does not know well b/c he’s just being old personable Joe. But old personable Joe is fucking creepy. I don’t know what kick he gets out of putting his hands on people in a situation where they can’t complain loudly w/o ruining an important moment, but it’s telling that seems to be where he mostly chooses to do it.  
It’s not b/c he’s old, he’s done it since his 50s. He enjoys touching people when he knows he controls the room. He’s lucky no one’s clocked him, and I’ve certainly never heard of anyone standing up to him then or later. So until now enough people have been fine w/ the status quo that they didn’t act; that complacency is one of the bigger problems the #MeToo movement is working against.  
What he does and how he does it is not ok. I wouldn’t vote for him due to his age primarily; I think his age is part of the problem he has not thinking of other people’s boundaries. He grew up seeing that powerful men do what they want and only think of others when forced to.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/64 "2019-04-03T08:46:33Z")

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Lucy Flores of course was dumb at the time and was unable to tell Biden she was uncomfortable with his touching her.

Bloody ludicrous. This cheapens the statements of women who have been genuinely assaulted.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/65 "2019-04-03T09:43:22Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Lucy Flores of course was dumb at the time and was unable to tell Biden she was uncomfortable with his touching her.
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> Bloody ludicrous. This cheapens the statements of women who have been genuinely assaulted.

So women should not speak out about their experiences, unless you approve of exactly how they responded at the time?

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/66 "2019-04-03T16:38:21Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Nah, he is just a handsy plagiarist. All the frothing, marginally literate ranting some rando could post won’t change that.

I’m just glad your bumper-sticker literacy didn’t stop you from sucking more scum out of pups. Love that word ‘rando’… you find that in Webster?  
Of Course Not…! I’m waiting for your “I don’t watch TV” smug reply.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/67 "2019-04-03T16:48:03Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> I’m just glad your bumper-sticker literacy didn’t stop you from sucking more scum out of pups. Love that word ‘rando’… you find that in Webster?  
> Of Course Not…! I’m waiting for your “I don’t watch TV” smug reply.

Nope, I watch TV. In fact, I watched Biden’s campaign implode back in 1988 when the plagiarism scandal erupted. I didn’t like that creepy peckerhead back then, either. It is a shame on my party that he was VP.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/68 "2019-04-03T17:27:01Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I was a Biden fan and still want to be but the vids my brother just showed me do look pretty bad. I’m on my tablet right now so it’s a chore to link but If you get on YouTube and search “Joe Biden creepy” you will find several compilations. I’m not prepared to say he’s being sexual but certainly overly familiar with young girls and women. I was aware that he was known as a touchy-freely type and there was a kerfluffle when as VP, he had (an adult) biker chick sit on his lap. The videos I saw show him, at the least, making some young girls very uncomfortable.  
> Like I said, I thought pretty highly of him, hating to see some big ol’ feet of clay.  
> What do I need to know?
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> [It is a chore but here’s a link](https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=Joe+biden+creepy).

Well, one famous compilation is a highly edited hit piece. The editing make the activity appear more creepy and the reactions worse.

But Joe is a friendly man of his times. He touches people. People generally are good with that.You know that Sanders Supporter politician who complained how Biden kissed her on the back of the head? Sure. Not good. But they were touchy friendly… it was her rally, Biden was supporting her and _she_ put her arms around _him_ on stage.

Another shot is of a woman in a restaurant who pushed her chair up to the Veep, back first, pretty well asking for some sort of contact.

Honestly, non-sexual touching isnt evil. Yes, it is _no longer_ a thing we do. Some are uncomfortable with it. But in Bidens day it is what you did. It still is common around the USA, in areas- strangers hug, men and women shake hands. In Photos it is common to pose with your hands on a shoulder to show support.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/69 "2019-04-03T17:58:40Z")

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Biden is a man in a position of power and authority. The situations shown in multiple videos were taken when the victim (yes, victim) was usually in a very public setting where it would be unseemly to turn around and slap the guy or just tell him to knock it off. So they go along with it so to not cause a scene. He has them at his advantage. They can either put up with it or blow the scene up and look bad. He has total control of the picture and they do not have any control.

It is a classic power move by a skeevy guy. Would you put up with this 'good ‘ole Uncle Joe’ shit if he were your daughter’s volleyball coach? Of course not.

The weeding out process for the many Democratic candidates has begun, to narrow the field down to a few. Good Old Uncle Joe is the first to go, and rightfully so. For a number of reasons.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/70 "2019-04-03T18:27:33Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> It is a classic power move by a skeevy guy. Would you put up with this 'good ‘ole Uncle Joe’ shit if he were your daughter’s volleyball coach? Of course not.
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> The weeding out process for the many Democratic candidates has begun, to narrow the field down to a few. Good Old Uncle Joe is the first to go, and rightfully so. For a number of reasons.

If my daughters volleyball coach put his hand on her shoulder in a posed picture after she won the championship? Sure, what’s wrong with that.

But no, it’s not the ‘weeding out process’ it is the kremlin and the GOP plus a few idiot Dems trying to torpedo the frontrunner. This will guarantee a trump victory in 2020.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/71 "2019-04-03T19:54:34Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> If my daughters volleyball coach put his hand on her shoulder in a posed picture after she won the championship? Sure, what’s wrong with that.
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> But no, it’s not the ‘weeding out process’ it is the kremlin and the GOP plus a few idiot Dems trying to torpedo the frontrunner. This will guarantee a trump victory in 2020.

[What looks like the latest poll,](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/2020-polls-latest-us-election-trump-approval-today-democrats-new-odds-live-updates-a8850096.html%3famp) if I’m reading it right: Biden’s #1, above Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren (and Hickenlooper and Gillibrand) put together.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-sure-what-to-make-of-videos-showing-joe-biden-being-creepy/816642/72 "2019-04-03T20:33:01Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> I’m just glad your bumper-sticker literacy didn’t stop you from sucking more scum out of pups. Love that word ‘rando’… you find that in Webster?  
> Of Course Not…! I’m waiting for your “I don’t watch TV” smug reply.

Moderating:

Tap those brakes. This isn’t the Pit. If you want to rant at other posters or the world in general the Pit is there for your enjoyment. Go ahead and participate in the discussion but don’t turn this into your private rant.

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