# Not to sound alarmist, I want to Emigrate to Australia, please help

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 24, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234 "2016-06-24T14:20:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/21 "2016-06-27T08:02:33Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Also, don’t believe the stereotype that we’re an arctic wasteland. I live about 1 degree north of northern California in latitude and my weather isn’t terribly different.

Keep in mind, though, that although San Francisco is universally considered to be northern California, in fact it lies barely more than halfway up the California coastline. The far northern reaches of California are thinly populated and pretty much a different world compared to the cities that most people think of when they think of California.

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**Author:** ![ralfy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ralfy/32/600_2.png) [@ralfy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralfy)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/22 "2016-06-27T11:08:40Z")

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This might help:

[http://www.australia.gov.au/help-and-contact/faqs/visas-and-immigration](http://www.australia.gov.au/help-and-contact/faqs/visas-and-immigration)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/23 "2016-06-27T14:10:31Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Gee, ignorance fought. I started this post to ask: Where in Canada is the latitude just about 1 degree north of northern California, but then I LMGTFM (Let Me Google That For Myself) and found it.
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> Northern California border: 42° or so.  
> Vancouver, British Columbia: 49.2° or so.  
> Windsor, Ontario: 42.3, SOUTH of Detroit and most of Michigan! (Well, I already knew about Canada being south of Michigan.) Okay, you _are_ just across the creek from an industrial wasteland.
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> (But my geography isn’t all _that_ bad. After all, I _did_ know the names of all five Great Lakes!)

Not only does Canada extend farther south than many people realize, a substantial portion of Canadians live in southern Canada.

Check out this [map](http://assets1.bigthink.com/system/tinymce_assets/2594/original/Map_1_-_Canada_50_50.png?1462463919). Half of Canada’s population lives below the red line.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/24 "2016-06-28T08:27:47Z")

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Opportunities are available in all walks of life in Australia. So if you’re young and if you’re healthy, why not get a boat and come to Australia? The chance of a lifetime, you get what you work for. Nobody has to be any better than they want to be.

(NOTE: This information may be 47 years out of date.)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/25 "2016-06-28T12:47:48Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Keep in mind that southwestern Ontario doesn’t have very cold winters; instead it has a lot of near-freezing-with-rain, which is arguably _much_ more miserable than a brisk dry -15C or so.

Winter in southern Ontario will be stunningly unpleasant to a person from the United Kingdom. A winter in Kitchener may not be as bad as a winter in Kirkland Lake but it makes Southampton look like Montego Bay. I assure any British planning on moving here that you will need warmer clothes and learn how to scrape ice off a car.

This past winter was amazingly mild, but there were still days when it didn’t get above -10. And not all winters will be amazingly mild. The _average_ temperature in Toronto in January and February is -3, about six degrees colder than London and much more variable.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/26 "2016-06-28T14:09:48Z")

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> [@ralfy](#):
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> This might help:
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> [http://www.australia.gov.au/help-and-contact/faqs/visas-and-immigration](http://www.australia.gov.au/help-and-contact/faqs/visas-and-immigration)

Why would you share that? Opinions of strangers from primarily the US are surely much more informative. Especially those who want to compare the weather in Canada to California.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/27 "2016-06-28T15:38:35Z")

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OP, the UK produced Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, The Beatles, and Monty Python, and countless other great things before it joined the EU. The kingdom will be just fine. If I were you I’d see how things go for a few months first.

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**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/28 "2016-06-29T05:34:24Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Also, don’t believe the stereotype that we’re an arctic wasteland. I live about 1 degree north of northern California in latitude and my weather isn’t terribly different.

Let’s not overdo this… The average temperature in Eureka, CA in January is 56/41. The average temperature in Windsor, ON in January is 30/19.

I had the pleasure of living in Windsor for a few years, and having spent more time living all over California, there is NO comparison - and the weather definitely IS terribly different.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/29 "2016-06-29T08:07:02Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> OP, the UK produced Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, The Beatles, and Monty Python, and countless other great things before it joined the EU. The kingdom will be just fine. If I were you I’d see how things go for a few months first.

Well, yes, yes, of course, but _other than_ Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, The Beatles, and Monty Python, and countless other great things, _what has the U.K. ever done for us!?!?!?_

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/30 "2016-06-29T08:13:22Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Well, yes, yes, of course, but _other than_ Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, The Beatles, and Monty Python, and countless other great things, _what has the U.K. ever done for us!?!?!?_

Plum pudding?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/31 "2016-06-29T13:36:55Z")

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> [@Daffyd](#):
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> I had the pleasure of living in Windsor for a few years, and having spent more time living all over California, there is NO comparison - and the weather definitely IS terribly different.

There’s also the fact that Eureka is on the Pacific coast, a rather different weather zone than the Great Lakes lowlands.

I mean, Ontario is nothing at all like Vancouver, BC, which obviously is even further north than Eureka.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/32 "2016-06-29T15:18:39Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Well, yes, yes, of course, but _other than_ Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, The Beatles, and Monty Python, and countless other great things, _what has the U.K. ever done for us!?!?!?_

Keep Calm and \<insert activity here\>?

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**Author:** ![ralfy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ralfy/32/600_2.png) [@ralfy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralfy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/33 "2016-11-03T10:37:38Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Why would you share that? Opinions of strangers from primarily the US are surely much more informative. Especially those who want to compare the weather in Canada to California.

How would you know that given the point that they are strangers?

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/34 "2016-11-03T13:31:18Z")

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> [@ralfy](#):
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> How would you know that given the point that they are strangers?

Woooosh! Understanding sarcasm must not be your strongpoint. Your link should have been quite informative for the OP, as opposed to many of the people that were posting in this thread, which was about immigrating from the UK to Australia, but was hijacked into a thread about comparing the weather in Canada to California.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/35 "2016-11-04T02:58:45Z")

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Woosh Woosh…

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**Author:** ![ralfy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ralfy/32/600_2.png) [@ralfy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralfy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/not-to-sound-alarmist-i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia-please-help/758234/36 "2016-11-04T13:58:52Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Woooosh! Understanding sarcasm must not be your strongpoint. Your link should have been quite informative for the OP, as opposed to many of the people that were posting in this thread, which was about immigrating from the UK to Australia, but was hijacked into a thread about comparing the weather in Canada to California.

Well, I am one of those strangers.

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