# NotfooledbyW, You Colossal Clod **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 10, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975 "2014-02-10T14:55:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/201 "2014-04-09T01:17:22Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Plus it’s not a real election until there is a military takeover to oust whoever they voted for. This is the truest and deepest expression of the will of the people. > > Also, context. > > Regards, > Shodan I can hardly wait for the run-off election so we can find out who the next mayor of Kabul will be. The idea that Afghanistan is even a country in any meaningful sense is laughable. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/202 "2014-04-09T02:48:09Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I can hardly wait for the run-off election so we can find out who the next mayor of Kabul will be. The idea that Afghanistan is even a country in any meaningful sense is laughable. I can’t wait until we find out how the Iraqi war turned out. NFBW seemed to still be on the middle chapters when last we heard from him in the Arrrggghhh! thread. I hope the war turned out ok, and that the UN prevented the US from invading because there was a majority of countries who would have voted against it…if there was a vote! It’s at the really scary part right now though… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/203 "2014-04-09T16:08:38Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I can’t wait until we find out how the Iraqi war turned out. NFBW seemed to still be on the middle chapters when last we heard from him in the Arrrggghhh! thread. I hope the war turned out ok, and that the UN prevented the US from invading because there was a majority of countries who would have voted against it…if there was a vote! It’s at the really scary part right now though… :eek: Well, you know we had to give Bush the authority to start a war, but no one actually thought he’d use that authority! And since he wasn’t enforcing all of the UNSC resolutions simultaneously, then Bush is _totally_ teh suxxor!1! You notice how we don’t hear much from him about Obama and how masterfully he is now that Obama is on the other side of the Ukraine issue? **The Fooled One** refuses to acknowledge that. But maybe he’s found another true love-- Putin. That guy does have a certain bad-boy air about him!! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/204 "2014-04-27T17:18:24Z")
Once again, The Fool tries to play the “cite?” game when the cite was already given. He pretends it doesn’t exist. Well, shit-for-brains, I addressed the Truther issue in my very first post on the subject-- before you asked the question. [My original Post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17324836&postcount=2750) One quote from the article that should raise eyebrows: > [@](#): > > But, amid all the voluminous details – incident reports strewn with names, license plate numbers, telephone numbers, and a bewildering array of personal and corporate interconnections – what is this story about, anyway? > > FACT AND THEORY > > It is, in short, about complicity: some degree of Israeli complicity with Atta and his fellow monsters. At the very least, the mechanics of what is obviously a covert operation directed by Israel imply a certain degree of foreknowledge. At worst, the details of this complex and by-no-means completely uncovered spy ring may wind up pointing to active (albeit one-sided) Israeli collusion with the mass murderers of 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/205 "2014-04-28T02:48:05Z")
He still is trying to come up with new definitions of the term “truther” to try and hand wave his way out of the situation. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/206 "2014-04-28T23:10:03Z")
Yeh Tom! [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=17330615) is everything I’ve wanted to say to this idiot for a long time now (and haven’t said since the Arrggghh! thread)! > [@Russia has invaded Ukraine. How will the West respond?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/2829): > > > [@Russia has invaded Ukraine. How will the West respond?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/2829): > > > > You are correct. I posted that as a poster, not a Moderator. > > > > I am rescinding that Warning. > > > > However, I am replacing it with a Warning for trolling. > > > > You first claimed that “not even” I could produce evidence that Raimondo claimed that anyone other than the 19 men on the planes brought down the towers. That is a straw man argument and not offered in good faith, particularly since I had made no similar claim. > > > > I pointed out, with four separate definitions of Truther, that your claim that Truthers had to believe in a different set of conspirators was false. > > > > You ignored three of the definitions to pretend that a Truther had to believe that the U.S. government was involved. That is debating in bad faith. > > > > You tried to play games regarding the dates that Raimondo posted various opinions as if other statements to the same effect, posted on different dates, were irrelevant to his general outlook. That is arguing in bad faith. > > > > You have tried to weasel out of the evidence that Raimondo is a Truther by citing him [JAQing off](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAQing%20off), despite the fact that I had already quoted him in post 2812 with a specific statement that he did not believe the “official” story. Your “JAQing off” defense might work on a show moderated by Glenn Beck, but it is an example of arguing in bad faith. > > > > I have long held that there is a level of stupidity that closely mimics trolling and that I am reluctant to Warn or ban posters for trolling when they might simply be incapable of arguing effectively. Your odd style of posting, with its dancing and weaving and changing definitions and “misunderstanding” the statements of other posters or other authorities makes it difficult to determine whether you are deliberately baiting other posters or are simply incapable of serious debate. At some point, however, the effects of stupidity and trolling are indistinguishable. You have hammered that point home in the exchange between posts 2779 and 2816. If you are not trolling, you clearly are not competent to post, here. > > > > [/Moderating] I think our buddy NFBW is walking out on the thin ice at this point, and I think he’s too stupid to do anything about it. I have to say that since Gonzomax, he’s the number one person on this board who I’ll cheer to see BANNED under his name from here on out (next up…FXMastermind. Hopefully) ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/207 "2014-04-30T10:22:17Z")
Nah, [next up is **BrokenBriton**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17334851&postcount=2865), which along with **RedFury** , will make that Ukraine thread yield two bannings, so far. What are the odds on it hitting the trifecta? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/208 "2014-05-01T03:20:45Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Nah, [next up is **BrokenBriton**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17334851&postcount=2865), which along with **RedFury** , will make that Ukraine thread yield two bannings, so far. What are the odds on it hitting the trifecta? Well, can’t say that I’ll miss BB, but I just don’t see why a poster like Red who has been here so long would throw away his account and get banned over such a stupid freaking thread. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/209 "2014-05-01T03:42:52Z")
First they came for the imbeciles, and I did not speak out, because I was not an imbecile. Then they came for the morons, and I did not speak out, because I was not a moron. Then they came for the dummies, and… Oh, well, it was nice to know ya! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/210 "2014-06-22T13:21:39Z")
When he’s not making a complete fool of himself in the Iraq threads by giving cites that contradict what he’s trying to prove, he makes idiotic statements like [the Sunnis are defending their territory from ISIS.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17483409&postcount=118) Maybe he can’t get a newsfeed in the basement he’s living in, but the Sunnis are allied with ISIS. Of course, [this was comedy gold](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17482182&postcount=78) where he goes fishing for random cites to bolster his argument, not realizing the author pulled a 180 just a few days later and said he was mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/211 "2014-06-22T13:41:38Z")
For God’s sake, won’t you just ignore the putz? He’s turned every single thread he’s ever posted in into a mind-numbing morass of white noise, and it’s only because people like you keep engaging him! Can’t you please just let him be wrong? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/212 "2014-06-22T15:33:24Z")
Sometimes shooting fish in a barrel actually is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/213 "2014-06-22T16:22:19Z")
Only for the shooter. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/214 "2014-06-22T17:52:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Only for the shooter. Actually, I worded that poorly. It’s not really what I meant. Let me rephrase: **Alessan** : You are 100% correct, and I really can’t rationally argue with you. I’ve said the same thing myself about other threads and other posters. My lame excuse is that I’ve been stuck at my desk doing some mind numbing work for some time now. It’s a pleasant diversion to put that aside and pop in here periodically. And when there’s a barrel of really stupid fish set in front me, I can’t help myself but taking some shots. But you are right. How does one say _Mea Culpa_ in Hebrew? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/215 "2014-06-22T19:14:14Z")
You have three choices: continue engaging him until you hit rock bottom, living in the streets and drinking Aqua Velva; join a support group of people trying not to engage him; or use the fucking ignore feature. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/216 "2014-06-22T20:34:39Z")
Maybe there’s some way we can point him at **adaher** and create some sort of perpetual motion machine. You know, for humanity. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/217 "2014-06-22T22:57:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > For God’s sake, won’t you just ignore the putz? He’s turned every single thread he’s ever posted in into a mind-numbing morass of white noise, and it’s only because people like you keep engaging him! Can’t you please just let him be wrong? Concur. **Mace** , between you and the colossal clod in question, _you two_ have more posts than the _other twenty-one people_ [who posted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=726174) in that thread. Don’t get me wrong, in terms of quality, I’m not trying to lump your posts together with his. But in terms of quantity, they are starting to form a symbiotic relationship. But I have a plan to save everyone some time, frustration and bandwidth. [Go here](http://www.cleverbot.com/) for a while every time you feel the need for a diversion from your mind numbing work. It will still always want to get the last word, but it’s much more amusing and at least serves the purpose of advancing an AI. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/218 "2014-06-23T02:04:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Of course, [this was comedy gold](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17482182&postcount=78) where he goes fishing for random cites to bolster his argument, not realizing the author pulled a 180 just a few days later and said he was mistaken. In NFBW’s defense, the idea that somebody can admit they have been wrong is not a possibility that had ever occurred to him. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/219 "2014-06-23T20:04:43Z")
He seems to think all Iraqis are united in defense of their country because they \*should \*be. It doesn’t seem to occur to him that the Mob Rules mentality is currently in full effect in Iraq. Nobody’s fighting for Iraqi unity. None of the splinter groups are cooperating with each other, no matter how much their talking heads bloviate. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/220 "2014-07-08T04:56:29Z")
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