# NotfooledbyW, You Colossal Clod

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 10, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975 "2014-02-10T14:55:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/61 "2014-02-11T14:40:18Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> You miss a few sidekicks of the last ones, like \*\*watchwolf49 \*\*and **Aji de gallina**.

Oh, Gigo, you _ **do** _ love me !!!

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Damn, when’s this guy going to show up, the suspense is killing me.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/62 "2014-02-11T14:50:25Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> There is the chance that he’s composing his tour de force 20-plus posts-in-a-row response that will devastate every person on the board that has ever disagreed with him.

Occam’s Razor either tells us that this is the correct explanation or that I don’t understand how Occam’s Razor works.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/63 "2014-02-11T14:53:33Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Occam’s Razor either tells us that this is the correct explanation or that I don’t understand how Occam’s Razor works.

Last time we were able to fight him here, so we didn’t have to fight him over there (in GD).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/64 "2014-02-11T15:30:24Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> To be honest, fellas, this thread is a little disappointing so far. I feel like I’ve been waiting for the guest of honor at a surprise party to show up, but in reality I’ve been waiting in a darkened room with 25 dudes for nine and a half hours. And I’m not even drunk yet.

Imagine how he feels. Can you see yourself showing up at a party where no one wants you there and insisting on staying? I guess if you simply had no friends and nowhere else to go, you would want to “show those people something”!

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/65 "2014-02-11T15:43:13Z")

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Maybe he’s busy with his Congressional duties?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/66 "2014-02-11T16:13:52Z")

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Or he could be busy working on that documentary about Bush in order to educumate the American people on the precise reason why they must hate Bush, and not hate him for any other reason.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/67 "2014-02-11T16:28:53Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Maybe he’s busy with his Congressional duties?

Now I know why Congress has a 7% approval rating. It’s _his_ fault.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/68 "2014-02-11T16:35:57Z")

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Worse … maybe he _is_ George XLIII …

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/69 "2014-02-11T17:35:28Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Imagine how he feels. Can you see yourself showing up at a party where no one wants you there and insisting on staying? I guess if you simply had no friends and nowhere else to go, you would want to “show those people something”!

I know **NfbW** doesn’t consider analogies made by persons other than himself to be valid, unvoided, not negated, or whatever… but I suspect a lot of posters, upon discovering he has joined a thread, have the same reaction as a person discovering a turd in the punch bowl at a party.

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/70 "2014-02-11T20:27:47Z")

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Shodan and John Mace are liars. I hever said it was not a coup. I specifically said call it a coup - it does not matter.

Thanks for starting this thread so that fact can be furthered defended more than I already have. Which caused them to run from the forum where facts and truth are supposed to matter.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/71 "2014-02-11T20:37:32Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Take [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=702291), or [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=713389). In this he argues that he never viewed the coup in Egypt as a coup, except when it was a coup, and the coup is actually a democracy, except that an election which is overturned is negated and not rendered invalid, but not the election itself, that Chuck Hagel never said Syria was acting out of incompetence or dragging her feet when he said they were acting either out of incompetence or were dragging their feet.

> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Shodan and John Mace are liars. I hever said it was not a coup. I specifically said call it a coup - it does not matter.

On the one hand, I pretty much glaze over NFBW, because he’s kind of embarrassing. On the other hand, Shodan has called me out over some pretty idiotic misreadings of what I’ve written over the years, so I don’t trust him further than I can e-throw him. And going through four pages total from those two linked threads, I’m not seeing where NFBW says that it’s not a coup, and I’m not going to keep looking to try to substantiate Shodan’s claim.

Shodan, wanna give us a cite to a specific post that bothers you, instead of suggesting we read 20+ pages of hot mess to find the cites?

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/72 "2014-02-11T20:43:40Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Or, he’ll claim this is evidence that all have failed and he is Winning!!! in Great Debates because no one can refute his brilliantly constructed and cited logical arguments in that forum.

> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Shodan and John Mace are liars. I hever said it was not a coup. I specifically said call it a coup - it does not matter.
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> Thanks for starting this thread so that fact can be furthered defended more than I already have. Which caused them to run from the forum where facts and truth are supposed to matter.

So, did I nail it, or did I nail it?

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/73 "2014-02-11T20:43:44Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> I know **NfbW** doesn’t consider analogies made by persons other than himself to be valid, unvoided, not negated, or whatever… but I suspect a lot of posters, upon discovering he has joined a thread, have the same reaction as a person discovering a turd in the punch bowl at a party.

Bring up the analogy you are defending - i will explain to you why it sucks. Your broad generalization is false.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/74 "2014-02-11T20:49:48Z")

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The analogy is your ass and a hole in the ground and why you don’t know the difference.

Or perhaps Obama’s ass and a rose garden.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/75 "2014-02-11T20:50:11Z")

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> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Bring up the analogy you are defending - i will explain to you why it sucks. Your broad generalization is false.

And there’s the perfect example of your utter inability to read for comprehension. Quite clearly, the analogy he was defending was the one between you and “a turd in the punch bowl at a party.”

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/76 "2014-02-11T20:57:53Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> And there’s the perfect example of your utter inability to read for comprehension. Quite clearly, the analogy he was defending was the one between you and “a turd in the punch bowl at a party.”

I suggest he suck on that turd.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/77 "2014-02-11T21:02:52Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> **NfbW** : You are wrong.

> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Bring up the analogy you are defending - i will explain to you why it sucks. _Your broad generalization is false._

[my emphasis]

Well, he is the expert on sucking, _but oh so predictable_.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/78 "2014-02-11T21:04:59Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> The analogy is your ass and a hole in the ground and why you don’t know the difference.

An apocryphal newspaper editor sent out a memo to his employees explaining that a _burro_ is an ass, and a _burrow_ is a hole in the ground, and that his employees really should know the difference. I approve.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/79 "2014-02-11T21:14:45Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> An apocryphal newspaper editor sent out a memo to his employees explaining that a _burro_ is an ass, and a _burrow_ is a hole in the ground, and that his employees really should know the difference. I approve.

I think the correct interpretation should be that **NfbW** sticks his head in both–his own ass and a hole in the ground, that is. But I don’t know what he’s into.

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/80 "2014-02-11T21:36:02Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> On the one hand, I pretty much glaze over NFBW, because he’s kind of embarrassing. On the other hand, Shodan has called me out over some pretty idiotic misreadings of what I’ve written over the years, so I don’t trust him further than I can e-throw him. And going through four pages total from those two linked threads, I’m not seeing where NFBW says that it’s not a coup, and I’m not going to keep looking to try to substantiate Shodan’s claim.
> 
> Shodan, wanna give us a cite to a specific post that bothers you, instead of suggesting we read 20+ pages of hot mess to find the cites?

Weve been through it. I’ll repost it. Shodan and Mace about as stupid as it gets to challenge me on this.

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